Butterfly from Vietnam 2

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Butterfly from Vietnam 2

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Please ID this butterfly from VIETNAM.
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Re: Butterfly from Vietnam 2

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A species of Penthema, but I am uncertain of which one.
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I asked Yutaka Inayoshi, and he said it is Penthema michallati michallati Janet, 1894, see https://yutaka.it-n.jp/sat/40570010.html for a little more information, but no photos.

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Re: Butterfly from Vietnam 2

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Looks a lot like this Papilio from Taiwan. Must be regional mimicry with similar pairs of sp. mimics?

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Re: Butterfly from Vietnam 2

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That's Euripus consimilis (Nymphalidae). I suppose it could be a Danaine mimic.

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Re: Butterfly from Vietnam 2

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Oh, and there's a huge size difference, E. consimilis is maybe 3-4cm across spread, whereas Penthema is nearer 10cm.

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adamcotton wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:10 am I asked Yutaka Inayoshi, and he said it is Penthema michallati michallati Janet, 1894, see https://yutaka.it-n.jp/sat/40570010.html for a little more information, but no photos.

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Re: Butterfly from Vietnam 2

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That's Hestina assimilis, not Euripus consimilis, Adam. ;)

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Re: Butterfly from Vietnam 2

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benihikage92 wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:35 am That's Hestina assimilis, not Euripus consimilis, Adam. ;)

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Thank you, my error!

Anyway it is definitely not a Papilio as stated in the post containing the photo.

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Re: Butterfly from Vietnam 2

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adamcotton wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:56 pm That's Euripus consimilis (Nymphalidae). I suppose it could be a Danaine mimic.

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Looking on iNat, I find Hestina assimilis ssp. formosana

Can't post pics because my anti-virus software says the photo hosting platform I've used has a virus.

I thought it looked like a Papilio, oh dear it's in the wrong drawer.
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Re: Butterfly from Vietnam 2

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Yes, Euripus consimilis is similar but has a different wing shape. I got confused by the presence of the red spots, see https://yutaka.it-n.jp/apa/750300010.html

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Re: Butterfly from Vietnam 2

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adamcotton wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:55 am
benihikage92 wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:35 am That's Hestina assimilis, not Euripus consimilis, Adam. ;)

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Thank you, my error!

Anyway it is definitely not a Papilio as stated in the post containing the photo.

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First clue in the photo would be four legs instead of six in Papilio.
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Re: Butterfly from Vietnam 2

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Indeed, and the distinctly pointed palps.

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