Decoy for luring butterflies that like to mate and fight

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Decoy for luring butterflies that like to mate and fight

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Some butterflies don't nectar much, some stay in the canopy, others are hard to catch.

In Solomon Islands, Papilio ullysses males stay in the canopy but come down to attack lower males and sometimes other butterflies. I tried foil that matched them exactly, but they showed no interest in it. However, I did see one attacking a crushed, old, pale blue beer can, and that worked well from then on.

Recently, I've tried to secure "Spring Form" Tiger Swallowtails, which seldom nectar and stay some 4 meters up around trees. Urine, gatoraide, and other baits were ineffective.

These Spring Form are fond of attacking each other though. So I made a decoy.

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It's rubbermaid with a rubber gasket. That should keep out any pests for the 11 months it's not in use. The "dome" protects the real (thus fragile) decoy specimens while in transit.

I suspect that the plastic will filter UV, and that UV is an important part of the lure. So, the "dome" can be quickly unsnapped to expose the lures.

The lures are secured to a slab of balsa which itself is held in place both by screw tension and being keyed. Technically, I could make another such slab w/ lures to swap in for other species.

As you can see, it's screwed to a 3ft/ 1 meter long stake. We use these to mark driveways so the snow plows don't dig up the lawn. However, the snow plow drivers knock them over during the first plow, so it's a rather useless mission. You may use them to stake your tomato plants. But anyway I digress. The bottom is pointed so it can be pushed into the ground and be self-standing. Having carried it, a round stake would have been better.

I do need to add a lanyard between the dome and the handle so it all stays together.
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Any success yet?
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Paul K wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:57 pm Any success yet?
I've only tried it the one day I saw no Tigers. It's raining, with a cold front coming, and will continue like that for a week.

On that note, waves of inclement weather conditions make it difficult to ascertain flight periods. If it's cold and raining, the butterflies simply don't fly.
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As our P. canadensis season in Central Ontario is coming to a close, it was an early season (a week to 10 days early), the numbers of canadensis were strong. I drive a gravel road a few times a day that has always had a high concentration of canadensis, and this year there was a very high incidence of road kill. And at almost every road kill spot, there were other tigers gathering to check it out. So without a doubt, decoys (or dead tigers) are an attractant to those flying by. I found that I didn't need to bait as many spots this year with decoys and salt water, as the dead road kill tigers did the job for me. I am always on the lookout for another fletcheri, and did not find any this year, but I do drop my net on some of these gatherings to get a closer look at the numerous males.
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I will be extending season on P.canadensis travelling to Alberta. The peak of season there comes to mid June.
My brother who lives nearby Calgary sent me the photo of P.canadensis not realizing that among few was vary rare form fletcheri !! He is not collecting insects.
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Wow Paul,

That's an amazing moment your brother captured on film.

One of the rarest and most remarkable of natural- occuring swallowtail forms.

Outstanding !

Thank you for posting it for all here to enjoy.....
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Idle curiosity here....

How many broods does P. canadensis have in a typical season ?
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I think P. canadensis is univoltine throughout its range, and it would be interesting to hear whether this is correct or not.

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adamcotton wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:20 pm I think P. canadensis is univoltine throughout its range, and it would be interesting to hear whether this is correct or not.

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It seems like that.
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Papilio canadensis is univoltine and and obligate dipauser. There are multiple studies on this, including the genetics of it. Ditto Spring Form of not-Papilio glaucus, at least in New England.

MST also is univoltine and with obligate dipause, and in addition has a delayed emergence.
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Does that also imply that at least in NY/NE true P. glaucus is also univoltine, or are you saying that true P. glaucus does not occur there?

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adamcotton wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:18 pm Does that also imply that at least in NY/NE true P. glaucus is also univoltine, or are you saying that true P. glaucus does not occur there?

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It is my belief that true glaucus only occurs in the NYC area of NY where it's much warmer. As for New England, along the Atlantic coast only up to Connecticut.

Now, concerning decoys, tests have demonstrated that Tigers do not differentiate, so the decoy should work for all taxa. If only we could get some decent weather to test it.
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Chuck wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:27 pm Now, concerning decoys, tests have demonstrated that Tigers do not differentiate, so the decoy should work for all taxa. If only we could get some decent weather to test it.
That would not surprise me at all. If I put a dead butterfly (pierid or papilionid) on mud it very quickly attracts a number of different species.

I hope you get good weather soon.

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