Is this AI?
Are you from California or Oregon?
Do you smoke or weld?
by Chuck » Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:35 am
Is this AI?
by boghaunter1 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:07 am
by nikiahloch » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:55 am
The airport in the US. I'm flying back from Vietnam to California. I live in the United States. "They" is the custom officials at the airport. I have an email from the agent that told me this info. So I have plenty of evidence of what they said. I did read the laws. I just decided to actually talk to someone about it.Chuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:59 pmWhich airport? Who is "they"?nikiahloch wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:18 pm
When your at the airport. If you have to go to customs. The person I talked to with USFW said that in most cases. They will just ask if they are dead or alive. This is a topic they deal with all the time, that's what they said to me.
Anything USFWS tells you is worthless. Get it in writing, and identified as to who wrote it. USFWS personnel once told me an import was OK, but apparently it wasn't, and the only thing that saved me was that I had kept copious notes- names, dates, times and exact words.
GO READ THE LAWS. This is so stupid we always go round-and-round here with "somebody said."
The other question is Vietnam wildlife export laws.
by MonaLisa » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:11 am
by Chuck » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:59 pm
Which airport? Who is "they"?nikiahloch wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:18 pm
When your at the airport. If you have to go to customs. The person I talked to with USFW said that in most cases. They will just ask if they are dead or alive. This is a topic they deal with all the time, that's what they said to me.
by adamcotton » Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:34 pm
by adamcotton » Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:31 pm
by nikiahloch » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:18 pm
When your at the airport. If you have to go to customs. The person I talked to with USFW said that in most cases. They will just ask if they are dead or alive. This is a topic they deal with all the time, that's what they said to me.Chuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:15 pmWho will let you walk through, and where? Is that after or without informing in/out customs?nikiahloch wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:35 am but most of the time there's not permits required and most will let you walk through as long as they are dead and you aren't bringing endangered or protected species
by Trehopr1 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:32 pm
by Chuck » Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:15 pm
Who will let you walk through, and where? Is that after or without informing in/out customs?nikiahloch wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:35 am but most of the time there's not permits required and most will let you walk through as long as they are dead and you aren't bringing endangered or protected species
by Annarobertson1947 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:45 am
by billgarthe » Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:56 am
by MikeH » Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:17 am
by MikeH » Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:10 am
by boghaunter1 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:37 am
by nikiahloch » Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:35 am
Very true. I did talk to the USFW and they said I may need a 3177 form. To have one just in case but most of the time there's not permits required and most will let you walk through as long as they are dead and you aren't bringing endangered or protected speciesChuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:46 amMost foreign organizations don't have or won't take the time to respond. They leave it to you and/or your local agent to arrange.nikiahloch wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:53 am
I sent an email to the Vietnam Department of Agriculture and still haven't heard back from them and that was 8 months ago, I leave the 30th of this month. I've contacted the US Department of Agriculture and even talked to someone and they said I don't need permits for importing dead insects in the US. I think at this point its a matter of hoping for the best.
USDA has nothing to do with dead insects, they only oversee live insects. Dead insects fall under USFWS.
One does not want to run afoul of Vietnamese officials. Getting caught on the way out with dead insects and no paperwork is going to be, at the least, expensive.
If one elects to "wing it", which I have as sometimes it's the only option, the best approach upon arriving in a foreign country is to find a local who knows the laws and officials, and can help get a permit. Even better is to make contact with a knowledgeable person in VN BEFORE going. Hoping to do it yourself in-country may not be effective, and will cost a fortune in bribe money.
by EdTomologist » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:30 pm
by EdTomologist » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:15 pm
For sure! Spent 50 days in Brazil, ca,e back to the US just long enough to spread them before I left for CR.
by Trehopr1 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:21 pm