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livingplanet3 · by livingplanet3 » Sat Apr 01, 2023 11:10 pm

daveuk wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:06 pm Lovely specimens hewi. All of them

Agreed!

livingplanet3 · by livingplanet3 » Sat Apr 01, 2023 11:05 pm

daveuk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:59 pm 1)Papilio ulysses ulysses. Pair. Ceram, Indonesia
2)Papilio ulysses autolycus. Pair. West Papua
3)Papilio ulysses joesa. Two pairs. Queensland, Australia. Top left male was self collected...

Outstanding!

livingplanet3 · by livingplanet3 » Sat Apr 01, 2023 11:01 pm

bobw wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:28 pm Dave, in your 3rd photo, I'm not sure where you got the name diana from, it's ssp. helena. Also, eusebes is now generally considered to be a synonym of r. rhetenor.

Is M. diana considered to be closer to rhetenor, or to cypris? -

https://archive.insectnet.com/thread/46 ... r-hightoni

Trehopr1 · by Trehopr1 » Sat Apr 01, 2023 9:38 pm

It is likely not advisable for you to over-medicate (dose) your cat a second time with anything. You're only asking for a vet bill then....

Far wiser, to remove your bed sheets and wash them in hot water and clothes soap. You should as well remove any comforters or blankets that you have and see to it that they are also thoroughly washed in hot water and soap.

Your really fluffy or thick comforter can be taken to the local laundromat and washed in one of their big drum washers which can handle the load since the average washer cannot.

Further you should see to it that the carpeting in ANY bedrooms is cleaned by a steam cleaning service. They use (extremely) hot water in the carpet cleaning process which will kill any fleas or their eggs which are harbored in the carpeting; another favorite place (harborage) for fleas.

I was once an exterminator for a time so I do know something of the pest business....

zaarin_2003 · by zaarin_2003 » Sat Apr 01, 2023 9:04 pm

livingplanet3 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:55 pm
zaarin_2003 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:13 am ...We spotted the attached bug on our bedding this morning and yesterday saw one crawling in our dog's fur...
This is most certainly a flea. I've had my share of experiences with them over the years, unfortunately! Yes, the bites can be incredibly itchy, and many people have an allergic reaction to flea bites, which makes things even worse. I can't tell which species of flea it is from the photos, but if it's a rather small and dark one, it may possibly be a cat flea, which are particularly aggressive biters! -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_flea

https://bugguide.net/node/view/30402

Thanks! That one - fifth from the left on your second link. That's the b*stard! I was blaming the dog, but it must be the cat. He sleeps on my wife's side, which explains why she's been bitten more.

I dosed the cat with Advocate just yesterday, but we got bit again an hour ago in bed. I want to dose him again, but don't know if it's bad for him! Sorry, I realise I should ask a vet about that!

daveuk · by daveuk » Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:06 pm

Lovely specimens hewi. All of them

hewi · by hewi » Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:04 pm

P. ulysses penelope

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hewi · by hewi » Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:03 pm

P. ulysses denticulatus

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hewi · by hewi » Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:02 pm

P. ulysses physkon

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hewi · by hewi » Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:00 pm

P. orsippus rothschildianus

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adamcotton · by adamcotton » Sat Apr 01, 2023 11:24 am

I should clarify that I am not directly involved in the DNA analysis or building the trees and other analyses of the sequences. As well as providing samples I verify the identity of specimens and work on morphological taxonomy and nomenclature. Geneticists are not always so familiar with the actual taxa and how to distinguish them from similar species.

Adam.

adamcotton · by adamcotton » Sat Apr 01, 2023 10:45 am

eurytides wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:33 am Dr. Sperling is a giant in the field.

Yes, I have been assisting Felix for very many years. He was a pioneer in Papilio genetics, and many of the samples used in a large number of analyses which were combined in this paper came from me. As well as Felix's own machaon group studies we were both heavily involved in the Heraclides, Achillides and Menelaides studies among others.

Adam.

hewi · by hewi » Sat Apr 01, 2023 9:13 am

two females of ampelius

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daveuk · by daveuk » Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:37 am

My head hurts.

eurytides · by eurytides » Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:33 am

Nevermind. I just downloaded the paper and realize that both Julian Dupuis and his former PhD supervisor Felix Sperling are authors on this paper. I'm not completely surprised to be honest. Dr. Sperling is a giant in the field.

eurytides · by eurytides » Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:27 am

Regarding Papilio kahli, Julian Dupuis has done a lot of molecular work on the machaon/polyxenes group here in North America. It is of hybrid origin and Dupuis et al places it under Papilio machaon kahli.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/artic ... =printable

I have not had a chance to look at the new paper in detail. Kahli specimens are not easy to obtain and I do wonder which analysis was more robust.

daveuk · by daveuk » Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:38 pm

These are still O.K. here though.!!
Two male Papilio ulysses ampelius from Buru. I don't have a female & have not even seen a photo of one. The males are very large & spectacular.

daveuk · by daveuk » Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:34 pm

Glad I didn't post pictures of my P telegonus in this thread

.

Chuck · by Chuck » Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:33 pm

Astonishing.

Uh oh, I do have my "fuscus" name labeled. Fortunately, I never name labeled any of my zelicaon/ machaon/ whatevers.

Looks like the guys who "have every species of Papilio" but didn't care about subspecies better get busy.

Chuck · by Chuck » Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:55 pm

adamcotton wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:26 pm
Chuck wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:24 pm The wait is driving me nuts.
Sorry for all the delays. Please find details here:
viewtopic.php?t=930

Adam.

Thanks Adam! I can't wait to read it.

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