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Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:42 pm
by laurie2
Now that Papilio hermeli has been reinstated as a separate species to Papilio chikae, I wonder how this impacts on CITES and the recent inclusion of hermeli as ssp of chikae and thus a butterfly protected under the Convention?
Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:12 am
by hewi
I assume that this has no effect on the protection status. The species will certainly continue to be protected
Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 8:49 pm
by IanS
Adam, thanks for this.
Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 7:01 am
by Marco Gottardo
Wow, a beautiful paper.
All best wishes, Marco
Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 8:10 am
by adamcotton
Marco, thank you.
Today is the last day for open access download using the link in the first post in this thread. From tomorrow the paper goes behind a paywall, but I can send personal copies on request.
Adam.
Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 6:45 am
by Leonard187
Thanks for your sharing. As described in this paper, P.syfanius is treated as a separate species now, so albosyfanius from Yunnan is ssp？What about kitawaki from Tibet？
Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 12:56 pm
by adamcotton
Here is my listing of Papilio syfanius and P. maackii:
Papilio syfanius Oberthür, 1886
ssp. kitawakii Shimogôri & Fujioka, 1997 (23km N. of Zayu, East Thibet)
= pavonis Chou, Zhang & Xie, 2000 (Yunnan)
ssp. syfanius Oberthür, 1886 (TL: Tâ-Tsien-Loû)
= syphanius Verity, 1907 [Incorrect Subsequent Spelling]
= superans Draeseke, 1923 (TL: )
= kongaensis (Yoshino, 1997) (TL: Mt. Kongashan, Luting county, near Kanting, Sichuan prov., China)
= sichuanica (Schäffler, 2004) (TL: West of Leshan, ‘Red Basin’, East Sichuan, China)
f. albomaculata Verity, 1907 (TL: Ta-tong-kiao, N. W. China)
f. pseudomaackii (Schäffler, 2004) (TL: West of Leshan, ‘Red Basin’, East Sichuan, China)
ssp. albosyfanius Shimogôri & Fujioka, 1997 (TL: Likiang, Yunnan, China)
Papilio maackii Ménétriés, 1858
ssp. han (Yoshino, 1997) (TL: Mt. Wuyishan, Fujiang prov., China)
= shimogorii Fujioka, 1997 (TL: Mt. Omeishan, Sichuan, China)
ssp. maackii Ménétriés, 1858 (TL: à l'embouchure de l'Oussouri dans l'Amour ... depuis les montagnes de Chingan,
jusqu'à Khangar)
= raddei Bremer, 1861 (TL: Bureja)
= jutanus Fenton in Ishikawa, 1882 (TL: not only in Hokkaido, but also in the mountains of the main island)
= tutanus Fenton, 1882 (TL: Toshima and Iburi, Hokkaido)
= satakei Matsumura, 1919 (TL: Honshu (Gifu))
= maaki Draeseke, 1923 [Incorrect Subsequent Spelling]
= jezoensis Matsumura, 1927 (TL: Atsubetsu near Sapporo, Hokkaido)
= mandshurica Matsumura, 1927 (TL: Koshurei, Manchuria)
= kurilensis Matsumura, 1928 (TL: Shakotan, Kuriles)
= kaiensis Masuda, 1929 ()
= masuokai Kato, 1937 ()
= koraiveris Bryk, 1946 ()
= mirus Korshunov, 1998 ()
= nariensis Kim & Park, 1991 (TL: Ullungdo, Kyŏngpuk Prov, Korea)
Note that here I treat jutanus/tutanus Fenton, 1882 as a synonym of ssp. maackii. The name jutanus was published one month before tutanus and the former has priority, but nowadays everyone uses the latter name.
Adam.
Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 2:56 pm
by Leonard187
adamcotton wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 12:56 pm
Here is my listing of
Papilio syfanius and
P. maackii:
Papilio syfanius Oberthür, 1886
ssp. kitawakii Shimogôri & Fujioka, 1997 (23km N. of Zayu, East Thibet)
= pavonis Chou, Zhang & Xie, 2000 (Yunnan)
ssp. syfanius Oberthür, 1886 (TL: Tâ-Tsien-Loû)
= syphanius Verity, 1907 [Incorrect Subsequent Spelling]
= superans Draeseke, 1923 (TL: )
= kongaensis (Yoshino, 1997) (TL: Mt. Kongashan, Luting county, near Kanting, Sichuan prov., China)
= sichuanica (Schäffler, 2004) (TL: West of Leshan, ‘Red Basin’, East Sichuan, China)
f. albomaculata Verity, 1907 (TL: Ta-tong-kiao, N. W. China)
f. pseudomaackii (Schäffler, 2004) (TL: West of Leshan, ‘Red Basin’, East Sichuan, China)
ssp. albosyfanius Shimogôri & Fujioka, 1997 (TL: Likiang, Yunnan, China)
Papilio maackii Ménétriés, 1858
ssp. han (Yoshino, 1997) (TL: Mt. Wuyishan, Fujiang prov., China)
= shimogorii Fujioka, 1997 (TL: Mt. Omeishan, Sichuan, China)
ssp. maackii Ménétriés, 1858 (TL: à l'embouchure de l'Oussouri dans l'Amour ... depuis les montagnes de Chingan,
jusqu'à Khangar)
= raddei Bremer, 1861 (TL: Bureja)
= jutanus Fenton in Ishikawa, 1882 (TL: not only in Hokkaido, but also in the mountains of the main island)
= tutanus Fenton, 1882 (TL: Toshima and Iburi, Hokkaido)
= satakei Matsumura, 1919 (TL: Honshu (Gifu))
= maaki Draeseke, 1923 [Incorrect Subsequent Spelling]
= jezoensis Matsumura, 1927 (TL: Atsubetsu near Sapporo, Hokkaido)
= mandshurica Matsumura, 1927 (TL: Koshurei, Manchuria)
= kurilensis Matsumura, 1928 (TL: Shakotan, Kuriles)
= kaiensis Masuda, 1929 ()
= masuokai Kato, 1937 ()
= koraiveris Bryk, 1946 ()
= mirus Korshunov, 1998 ()
= nariensis Kim & Park, 1991 (TL: Ullungdo, Kyŏngpuk Prov, Korea)
Note that here I treat
jutanus/tutanus Fenton, 1882 as a synonym of ssp.
maackii. The name
jutanus was published one month before
tutanus and the former has priority, but nowadays everyone uses the latter name.
Adam.
Thank you for your kind reply
, I ve read your previous post and illustrated a picture accordingly, so it should be separated
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Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:39 am
by Chalinga
May I ask what are the subspecies of the Papilio bootes?
Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:06 am
by adamcotton
Here is a list of subspecies of P. bootes, and I included P. janaka for completeness, but did not include synonyms. P. janaka has no subspecies.
Type localities are in ( ) after each name.
Papilio janaka Moore, 1857 (Darjeeling)
Papilio bootes Westwood, 1842
ssp. bootes Westwood, 1842 (Sylhet)
ssp. mixta Tytler, 1915 (Yakama, Naga Hills; & Kabru Peak, Manipur)
ssp. mindoni Tytler, 1939 (Hthawgaw, N. E. Burma)
ssp. parcesquamata Rosen, 1929 (Lutsekiang & Rohand, Yunnan)
ssp. rubicundus Fruhstorfer, 1909 (Tsekou)
ssp. nigricans Rothschild, 1895 (Western China)
ssp. dealbatus Rothschild, 1895 (Western China (west of Ichang))
ssp. xamnuensis Tateishi, 2001 (Xamnua, Laos P.D.R.)
Adam.
Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:39 am
by Leonard187
Thanks for sharing and the terrific amount of work of the authors. A very little detail, Papilio ulysess penelope, located in Kelang Is, however I cannot find this island from the map, only Kelang in the Peninsula Malaysia which is far away
Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:24 am
by adamcotton
There are 3 small islands just to the west of Ceram. From north to south, these are Boano, Kelang and Manipa.
Adam.
Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:39 am
by Leonard187
adamcotton wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:24 am
There are 3 small islands just to the west of Ceram. From north to south, these are Boano, Kelang and Manipa.
Adam.
Thanks to your description I finally find it. Thank you Adam. That is really a small island.
Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:31 pm
by adamcotton
In this paper we did not consider the status of currently recognised subspecies, we just listed them under the correct species. It is possible that penelope is just a synonym of ssp. ulysses, but often island populations are slightly different.
Adam.
Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:47 am
by Leonard187
The islands might cause natural geographical isolation I think, which cause different phenotype, but I dont know how to define the subspecies or only population differences distributed in different areas. Recently I caught several specimen of Lobocla bifasciata with two extra white spots on forewings in Liangning Province and at the same area, a friend saw some individuals with only one spot or without any spot. So that might not be subspecies but just different populations I think.
Re: New Papilio paper
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:09 pm
by adamcotton
That sounds like individual variation if they come from the same place or area.
Adam.