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Ornithoptera victoriae

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:19 pm
by daveuk
Males of three subspecies with data. Top male is the nominate subspecies. I have females of the nominate & reginae but neither are in very good condition.

Re: Ornithoptera victoriae

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:05 pm
by Chuck
This pair is labeled "Solomons Province Bougainville" which is redundant. I don't know the name of the gold form of the male. The damage to the male HW I did did (grrrrr) while repositioning the female for this photo.

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Re: Ornithoptera victoriae

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:25 pm
by daveuk
Chuck wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:05 pm This pair is labeled "Solomons Province Bougainville" which is redundant. I don't know the name of the gold form of the male. The damage to the male HW I did did (grrrrr) while repositioning the female for this photo.
That is bad news to say the least Chuck. I get really annoyed with myself when I do things like that. That's a really unusual & beautiful male too.

Re: Ornithoptera victoriae

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 4:54 am
by Trehopr1
Here is one of 4 male O. victoria which I have (along
with one female). I'll have to get pictures of my others
at some point.

Data: O.victoria reginae, Little Malaita Is., Oct. 1975

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This birdwing species is my personal favorite for its wing shape
and at least 6 described subspecies. I think that I could easily
see myself owning at least 15 or 20 males (alone) if money were
no object. There is just SO MUCH variation that goes on in this
species !

Re: Ornithoptera victoriae

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:42 am
by Panacanthus
Trehopr1 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 4:54 am This birdwing species is my personal favorite for its wing shape
and at least 6 described subspecies. I think that I could easily
see myself owning at least 15 or 20 males (alone) if money were
no object. There is just SO MUCH variation that goes on in this
species !
I agree with you Trehopr1! This is my favorite birdwing also. Well, perhaps after alexandrae! But there is just something so elegant and beautiful about its shape and color pattern, and I feel their iridescence is quite unique among the birdwings as well, with a depth and richness unique to the species. The one subspecies which has eluded me, mainly because of the restrictions with the Solomon Islands, is maramasikensis.

Re: Ornithoptera victoriae

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:34 am
by daveuk
Trehopr1 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 4:54 am Here is one of 4 male O. victoria which I have (along
with one female). I'll have to get pictures of my others
at some point.

Data: O.victoria reginae, Little Malaita Is., Oct. 1975


This birdwing species is my personal favorite for its wing shape
and at least 6 described subspecies. I think that I could easily
see myself owning at least 15 or 20 males (alone) if money were
no object. There is just SO MUCH variation that goes on in this
species !
I agree about the variation Trehopr & the fact that it is a very beautiful species.I too have males of four subspecies & females of three. Pictures of my pair of O. victoriae epiphanes & females of nominate & reginae. Females in slightly better condition than I remembered. The female reginae is huge but has no proper data sadly & was quite bashed about before I got her.

Re: Ornithoptera victoriae

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:38 am
by daveuk
Panacanthus wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:42 am I agree with you Trehopr1! This is my favorite birdwing also. Well, perhaps after alexandrae! But there is just something so elegant and beautiful about its shape and color pattern, and I feel their iridescence is quite unique among the birdwings as well, with a depth and richness unique to the species. The one subspecies which has eluded me, mainly because of the restrictions with the Solomon Islands, is maramasikensis.
Would love to see pictures of your specimens sometime if you have any.

Re: Ornithoptera victoriae

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:48 pm
by mothman55
My victoriae drawer.
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Re: Ornithoptera victoriae

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:52 pm
by daveuk
mothman55 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:48 pm My Victoria drawer.
Absolutely beautiful specimens. Thanks for sharing

Re: Ornithoptera victoriae

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:44 pm
by livingplanet3
mothman55 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:48 pm My Victoria drawer....
Superb!

Re: Ornithoptera victoriae

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:22 am
by adamcotton
mothman55 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:48 pm My victoriae drawer.
Superb!

Adam.

Re: Ornithoptera victoriae

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:06 pm
by joachim
really really wonderful

Re: Ornithoptera victoriae

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:45 pm
by Trehopr1
Now that's what I'm talking about ! 👏☺️

I clearly see rubianus, maramasikensis, reginae (I believe), and amongst them I'm sure the nominate is present; so, are epiphanes and regius still needed ?

I think there is also now a archeri (?) subspecies but, maybe that's a questionable one.

Fantastic, as a drawer like that should be.

Can we see a close-up of that red-tip aberrant ?
I actually owned one myself briefly for a period of a couple years but, a moment of (weakness/monetary desperation) 24 yrs. ago had me sell it to another collector and I've never seen it since....

I've never found another one either so, it remains one of my few "serious regrets" of specimen loss in my life.

Re: Ornithoptera victoriae

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:02 pm
by mothman55
Trehopr1 wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:45 pm Can we see a close-up of that red-tip aberrant ?
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