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Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:11 pm
by billgarthe
My Morpho rhetenor……
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Antheraea polyphemus gynandromorph caught by me on mountain top at blacklights
and
Antheraea polyphemus dark form….reared
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:55 pm
by Trehopr1
Very good to see you once again Billg !
Hope we see more of you in the future....
Those are some terrific specimens.
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:10 pm
by adamcotton
Trehopr1 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:55 pm
Very good to see you once again Billg !
I will second that BIGTIME ... welcome back!
Adam.
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:11 pm
by adamcotton
hewi wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:43 pm
Adam, I am quite sure that the butterfly was exposed to UV light. Parts of the forewings were covered so that the green colour remained.
That's what I thought too. I really do not like artificially induced aberrations (aka. fakes), whatever method is used.
Adam.
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:36 am
by boghaunter1
Beautiful Ab. Attacus atlas,
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John K.
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:52 am
by boghaunter1
Gynander Spanish Moon moth - Graellsia isabellae
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A. luna x G. isabellae hybrid
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:00 am
by boghaunter1
Very unusual butterfly - looks like a colorful, fuzzy little plush toy...
Anteros renaldo from Columbia
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Papilio macki hybrid - Japan
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John K.
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:08 am
by boghaunter1
Bred ab. forms of Arctia caja - Incredible!
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John K.
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:11 pm
by wolf
Colias hecla sulitelma female ab from my breeding in 2021.
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:57 pm
by daveuk
Pink pierids.
A pair of pink Pieris brassicae with a typical pair. The pink male is also abb. minor.
A female pink Pieris rapae with a typical female.
Have posted pictures of these before. All bred specimens purchased by myself. I still have no idea how the pink colouration is produced
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:13 pm
by bobw
daveuk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:57 pm
Pink pierids.
A pair of pink Pieris brassicae with a typical pair. The pink male is also abb. minor.
A female pink Pieris rapae with a typical female.
Have posted pictures of these before. All bred specimens purchased by myself. I still have no idea how the pink colouration is produced
These pink
Pieris have been discussed here (or maybe the other forum) before, many of them were sold as pupae. I had a stand adjacent to the guy selling them at the AES show many years ago. My colleague was a research scientist specialising in foodstuffs, and when he started talking to the guy at a fairly technical level he seemed to understand eveything. The consensus was that they were almost certainly produced by dye in the larval foodplant, possibly based on beetroot.
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:43 pm
by boghaunter1
Mourning Cloak (Nymphalis antiopa) ab. "hygiaea" (interesting variations) - Following are 7 examples of this rare ab. that I collected, in the wild, a number of years ago, & were originally posted on Clark's "insectnet" site. These are now artificially reproduced by chilling the chrysalises, but wild collected specimens are still quite rare. As far as I know these are the only known specimens from Saskatchewan, CANADA. I would love to hear (& please show us here) of other wild collected (ONLY!) examples from N. Am.. These specimens are labeled from #1-7; #1 & #2 were collected the same day in early August; #3-7 were collected, in very late August, 3 years later, on 2 consecutive days, &
on the same 7-8 mile stretch of backroad !
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John K.
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:46 pm
by boghaunter1
#3 & #4,
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John K.
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:47 pm
by boghaunter1
#5 & #6,
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John K.
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:49 pm
by boghaunter1
Here is a nearly identical "hygiaea" variation, to my #6 example above, that I believe was also posted to my original specimens post years ago. It was from Nobles County, Minnesota - 14 July, 1986.
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John K.
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:07 pm
by Chuck
boghaunter1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:43 pm
These specimens are labeled from #1-7; #1 & #2 were collected the same day in early August; #3-7 were collected, in very late August, 3 years later, on 2 consecutive days, &
on the same 7-8 mile stretch of backroad !
John K.
Well if Papilio glaucus can sustain morphological changes due to genetic alteration from the environment, and these changes are inheritable, I'd think the same would be quite possible with other Leps. That would explain the temporal difference in the same location.
I'd go back and look for more.
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:12 pm
by boghaunter1
Almost forgot my #7,
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John K.
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:46 pm
by Trehopr1
Those are pretty awesome (natural) abbs. that you have managed John. I've never seen anything like them naturally occurring.
Mighty special finds indeed....
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:47 pm
by daveuk
boghaunter1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:12 pm
Almost forgot my #7,
John K.
Thanks for sharing those John. Really beautiful abberations.All of them !!
Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:47 pm
by boghaunter1