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Ornithoptera meridionalis
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:42 am
by daveuk
Not a perfect pair by a long way & small compared to my other birdwings. Particularly the male.
Glad to have them nevertheless.
Data is for Timika June 2006.
Anyone else got better specimens?
Re: Ornithoptera meridionalis
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:14 pm
by Chuck
@adam, has anyone ever done DNA trees on ornithoptera? I don't have any Ornithoptera books even.
It might be interesting, because meridionalis looks to have sprung from paradesia chrysanthemum, morphologically speaking.
Re: Ornithoptera meridionalis
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:07 pm
by Trehopr1
Always a great species wherever it may be seen in collections !
I have encountered two pairs and maybe four single males (total) in private collections being parted out. I had opportunity to pick up a superb pair from one of the collections but, at the time the asking price was $750 and I just couldn't really AFFORD them.
I have also had the chance to purchase at least three pairs in papers but, again in that case I just wasn't willing to gamble on the chance I might mess up the male (somehow) in trying to prepare it.
Re: Ornithoptera meridionalis
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:25 pm
by laurie2
daveuk wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:42 am
Not a perfect pair by a long way & small compared to my other birdwings. Particularly the male.
Glad to have them nevertheless.
Data is for Timika June 2006.
Anyone else got better specimens?
Three males on right hand side and second male on third row in from left from Aseki, Morobe Province, PNG. Others from Timika. Only female from Timika is the first specimen on the far left hand row.
Re: Ornithoptera meridionalis
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:30 pm
by adamcotton
Chuck wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:14 pm
@adam, has anyone ever done DNA trees on ornithoptera? I don't have any Ornithoptera books even.
Try this one:
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep11860
You can download the pdf (open access) from the page.
Adam.
Re: Ornithoptera meridionalis
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:48 pm
by livingplanet3
laurie2 wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:25 pm
Three males on right hand side and second male on third row in from left from Aseki, Morobe Province, PNG. Others from Timika. Only female from Timika is the first specimen on the far left hand row...
Very nice!
Re: Ornithoptera meridionalis
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:07 pm
by Trehopr1
Wow, that is an outstanding drawer !
Wonderful presentation and superb specimens throughout.
Re: Ornithoptera meridionalis
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:22 pm
by daveuk
laurie2 wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:25 pm
daveuk wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:42 am
Three males on right hand side and second male on third row in from left from Aseki, Morobe Province, PNG. Others from Timika. Only female from Timika is the first specimen on the far left hand row.
Some really beautiful specimens there. Thanks for sharing.
