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Papilio (machaon?) bairdii / brucei

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:56 pm
by laurie2
Is there a form of bairdii that is yellow, referred to as brucei or do we have two different beasts?

Re: Papilio (machaon?) bairdii / brucei

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:42 pm
by adamcotton
All of these are Papilio bairdii:
bairdii sadj.jpg
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Adam.

Re: Papilio (machaon?) bairdii / brucei

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:43 pm
by adamcotton
Note the black circle in the red anal 'eye' is connected to the margin, not centred in the red eye.

Adam.

Re: Papilio (machaon?) bairdii / brucei

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:08 am
by laurie2
Thanks Adam!

Re: Papilio (machaon?) bairdii / brucei

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:29 am
by adamcotton
Recent DNA analysis of genus Papilio, on which I am a co-author and has recently been submitted for publication, shows that Papilio bairdii is a separate species to the Palaearctic P. machaon. I wasn't going to mention details until after publication, and will inform Insectnet readers about other interesting changes in the genus when the paper is eventually published. I decided in this instance that there is no harm in confirming the status of Papilio bairdii since it has been treated as a separate species before.

Adam.

Re: Papilio (machaon?) bairdii / brucei

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:42 pm
by laurie2
adamcotton wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:29 am Recent DNA analysis of genus Papilio, on which I am a co-author and has recently been submitted for publication, shows that Papilio bairdii is a separate species to the Palaearctic P. machaon. I wasn't going to mention details until after publication, and will inform Insectnet readers about other interesting changes in the genus when the paper is eventually published. I decided in this instance that there is no harm in confirming the status of Papilio bairdii since it has been treated as a separate species before.

Adam.
That's very kind of you Adam to mention. I very much look forward in due course to reading the paper.