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Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:19 pm**

A lovely and rare find indeed !

Thank you for sharing

your exquisite specimen with us.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:22 pm**

Do you have any more you could share with us Olivier ?

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:25 pm**

wollastoni wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:29 am A rare Agrias phalcidon fournierae form rebillardi. Even rarer than the typical rebillardi form, this is a bicolor form with purple below the red patch. There are few other bicolor rebillardi specimens known. The purple effect is due to a red suffusion mixed in the blue in these 2 cells...

Spectacular!

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:48 pm**

two other species

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Posted: **Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:11 pm**

Congrats Manfred for this rare f. semidubiosa.

Let's keep on with 2 rare forms of Agrias narcissus tapajonus. Ex coll Le Moult, now in my collection.

- top specimen : Agrias narcissus tapajonus f. dubiosa
- low specimen : Agrias narcissus tapajonus f. cyaneoradiata

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To see classic Agrias narcissus tapajonus (not easy to find now) and its various forms, see here : https://agrias-butterflies.com/agrias-n ... tapajonus/

Posted: **Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:45 pm**

Do you have any more hewi that you can share with us ?

Your material is dynamite

!

Posted: **Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:00 pm**

Agrias pericles pericles f. bouvieri

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Posted: **Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:08 pm**

Agrias aedon rodriguezi

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Posted: **Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:12 pm**

Agrias phalcidon phalcidon f. lemoulti ♀

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Posted: **Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:20 pm**

Agrias phalcidon fournierae f. augustus ♀

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Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:55 am**

Thank you kindly hewi for sharing a few more of your really incredible Agrias with us.

Posted: **Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:30 pm**

Superb specimens, hewi - thank you for sharing!

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:20 am**

On the topic of Agrias ( apologies to those that are shaking their fingers in admonishment ) yes, I said Agrias

, is there anyone who can tell me the paper that puts Agrias in Prepona.
Can't find online.

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:11 pm**

Ortiz-Acevedo E & Willmott KR 2013. Molecular systematics of the butterflies tribe Preponini (Nymphalidae: Charaxinae). Systematic Entomology 38(2). http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/syen.12008.

A subsequent paper is available to download here
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... _Preponini

Adam.

Posted: **Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:07 am**

wollastoni wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:17 am
daveuk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:33 pm A couple more of my Agrias with data
Female A claudina croesus from Kempton Show London.
Male A sardanapalus lugina form godmani from Chuck Ianni.
Dave, the correct ID of your second Agrias is a Agrias claudina lugina form orleansi.
Please note that "sardanapalus" is a ssp of claudina (from Iquitos, Venezualian Amazonas, Brazilian Amazonas & Rondonia)
Please note that "godmani" is a ssp of claudina too (from Mato Grosso).

As Agrias is a very complex group (with a lot of hybridization and forms), there are a lot of errors in books and collections.

If I had to recommend one book to start studying them, Manfred Späth's monography about Agrias is the best one and it is not expensive at all.
Then to better understand forms, Floquet's volumes are a must (but hard to find).

Hi Wollastoni, a question for you .
I see Floquets books as stated being 2 books.
But on insectnet market place see attachment, 2023 book.
As I'm in the need of his book/ books, is this 2023 publication covering all species/ subspecies and forms ?
Thanks in advance
Anna

Posted: **Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:27 am**

Yes the 2023 publication is the last edition covering all species, subspecies, forms (and even hybrids). A crazy amount of work !

Available in the InsectNet marketplace.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:55 pm**

I notice that most Agrias collections are mainly male specimens, is it because females are rarer or males are more attractive.?
I would have thought that a collection of pairs would be a preference

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:01 am**

Females are rarer and more expensive.

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:27 pm**

I'm entering a new phase in my collecting now that I am working full-time and out of school (YAY!). Currently, I'm expanding my South American Nymphalidae. I finally snagged my favorite species of butterfly of all time (Agrias narcissus) for a reasonable price. I also have some other nice Agrias on the way.

Agrias pericles aurantica f. trajanus - Female - Brazil

Agrias narcissus narcissus - Male - Brazil

Posted: **Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:13 am**

Hello Tim !
Congratulations are in order for finishing up your schooling.

Very nice to see you once again posting some of your acquisitions. Have missed your presence here on the forum but, hope to see more of you here now as youthful collectors help to invigorate our forum !

A. narcissus is certainly a grand start in the genus and females of just about anything are just "icing on the cake" for one's collection.

Wish you well in your endeavors and do stay in touch with us here !

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