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Atrophaneura hageni

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:37 pm
by daveuk
Always led to believe that this was a full species. Am now reading that it is considered a sub species of A priapus.
A pair from Sumatra. Female is shown recto & verso.

Re: Atrophaneura hageni

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:36 am
by adamcotton
daveuk wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:37 pm Always led to believe that this was a full species. Am now reading that it is considered a sub species of A priapus.
It is certainly closely related to A. priapus but I don't think it's conspecific. I have not read or seen any evidence for this, where did you see it?

Adam.

Re: Atrophaneura hageni

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:43 am
by daveuk
adamcotton wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:36 am
daveuk wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:37 pm Always led to believe that this was a full species. Am now reading that it is considered a sub species of A priapus.
It is certainly closely related to A. priapus but I don't think it's conspecific. I have not read or seen any evidence for this, where did you see it?

Adam.
Wikipedia..not the best source of information on taxonomy..

Re: Atrophaneura hageni

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 1:00 pm
by adamcotton
daveuk wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:43 am Wikipedia..not the best source of information on taxonomy..
The Atrophaneura priapus page is very poor, without any reference to a publication which includes hageni as a subspecies. I suppose they treat luchti as a separate species - that is A. priapus. They even suggest that A. sycorax may be conspecific, which of course it isn't.

Adam.