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Baird's swallowtail - side to side wing size variation
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:20 pm
by Papilio_indra
I reared this adult male P. bairdii (or is it P. machaon bairdii?) that has noticeably larger wings on its right side. The difference isn't huge but clearly evident. Occasionally I'll net wild local Papilio's (P. rutulus, and P. eurymedon in particular) that show the same imbalance although sometimes it's the left side wings that are larger. Any ideas as to what causes this?
Re: Baird's swallowtail - side to side wing size variation
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:44 pm
by adamcotton
Papilio_indra wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:20 pm
I reared this adult male
P. bairdii (or is it
P. machaon bairdii?) that has noticeably larger wings on its right side.
Papilio bairdii was confirmed as a separate species to
P. machaon by Condamine
et al. (2023) (see
https://forum.insectnet.com/viewtopic.php?t=930)
Papilio_indra wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:20 pm
Occasionally I'll net wild local Papilio's (P. rutulus, and P. eurymedon in particular) that show the same imbalance although sometimes it's the left side wings that are larger. Any ideas as to what causes this?
As for size difference between the two sides of a butterfly, I have seen very occasional papered specimens with this anomaly but don't know what causes it. Do the wild caught specimens fly slightly differently due to the imbalance?
Adam.
Re: Baird's swallowtail - side to side wing size variation
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:49 pm
by Papilio_indra
Thanks Adam for the clarification on the Latin name.
The wild specimens do tend to fly somewhat more erratically and with seemingly less control.
Re: Baird's swallowtail - side to side wing size variation
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:18 am
by eurytides
Just how nature works. Most things are not perfectly symmetric. People, for example, will have arms and legs that are different by a few mm. Some people have differences that are much more pronounced, perhaps 1-2 cm, which will affect the tilt of their pelvis and posture.
Re: Baird's swallowtail - side to side wing size variation
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 3:26 pm
by Chuck
This differentiation in wing size is common, and I see it most often in Speyeria.
Re: Baird's swallowtail - side to side wing size variation
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:40 pm
by boghaunter1
These lopsided wings occur in different butterfly families as well; the following specimen was a very poor/awkward flier which first drew my attention to it...
Common Wood Nymph - Cercyonis pegala ino

- Common Wood Nymph Lopsided reduced 1.jpg (237.29 KiB) Viewed 83 times
John K.
Re: Baird's swallowtail - side to side wing size variation
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:09 am
by wollastoni
Impressive specimen John !