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A white-coloured Papilio agenor ♀ from Hainan China
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 2:05 pm
by Leonard187
Re: A white-coloured Papilio agenor ♀ from Hainan China
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:21 am
by Chuck
Spectacular. Are those truly naturally occurring or maybe bred in that region?
Re: A white-coloured Papilio agenor ♀ from Hainan China
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 1:46 am
by Leonard187
Chuck wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:21 am
Spectacular. Are those truly naturally occurring or maybe bred in that region?
Thay are all wild-caught. The left hindwing of the individual in Figure 1 was damaged. Therefore, I made a mirror image of the right one, so it seems odd.
In these resions of China, the white females can be seen naturally during summer (I capture here from a video on website). However, when spring, the females are often dark and a little small.

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Herein, some people incubate the pupae without deliberately selective breeding. Interestingly, a friend selected a white female parent, but the hatching time of the eggs caused the pupae to become over-wintering pupae, resulting in diapause. The offsprigs are all dark (some have white patch on the cells of hindwings), but no white ones. Here Is one photo.

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Re: A white-coloured Papilio agenor ♀ from Hainan China
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:21 am
by adamcotton
It is interesting that the extreme white forms seem to be restricted to the 'summer' (wet season) generation in nature. They occur naturally in Indochina too.
I selectively bred extreme versions of these over a period of many years, which were almost entirely white, and these were not seasonal, perhaps because in the lowland here in Chiang Mai (330m asl.) there is minimal pupal diapause in the cool season.

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Adam.
Re: A white-coloured Papilio agenor ♀ from Hainan China
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:35 am
by Leonard187
adamcotton wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:21 am
It is interesting that the extreme white forms seem to be restricted to the 'summer' (wet season) generation in nature. They occur naturally in Indochina too.
I selectively bred extreme versions of these over a period of many years, which were almost entirely white, and these were not seasonal, perhaps because in the lowland here in Chiang Mai (330m asl.) there is minimal pupal diapause in the cool season.
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Adam.
Thanks for your sharing, and these two individuals are really extremely white. I do not know whether this phenotype is related to the temperature (hot make it white, maybe?). I heared that
P.agenor in Japan also has similar pattern, with individuals in the extreme southern region (Iriomote Island) appearing whiter.
BTW, I heared that the ssp. of Iriomote Island was extint, is that true?