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Common names in Classifieds
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:55 am
by kevinkk
Am I just in need of something else to think about or is anyone else disappointed in the use of non-Latin names being used in the classified ads.
I just had to look up a "common" name. I don't like it.
I suppose there's no way for an algorithm to prevent this. People- look, it's not what we do, it's a bad look for you as a seller, that's about all I have,
and I look forward to never seeing a non-Latin name used to describe a species which I am certain has a Latin name, and has that name for a reason.
I am wasting my time aren't I? More people should read the Forum.
Re: Common names in Classifieds
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:56 am
by adamcotton
I decided to change the subject from 'nomenclature and Latin' to 'Common names in Classifieds' in order to point out the issue, which I totally agree with Kevin on.
Adam.
Re: Common names in Classifieds
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:41 pm
by wollastoni
I guess you are using the "Live insect" category. A lot of moth breeders are not entomologists/collectors and mainly use common names only. I agree with you latin names are more useful (especially for us foreigners...).
An algorithm plugged on IA could easily automatically add the latin names but it would take time to develop it. I will think about it.
Re: Common names in Classifieds
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:01 pm
by Chuck
I just had to look up a "common" name
And here I thought I was all alone in suffering such ignorance. It’s like dealing with the bird watching butterfly types- “which checkerspot is that?” Beats me, I only know the Latin name.
Re: Common names in Classifieds
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:53 pm
by Miguel
I hate when peolple doesn´t use the latin names when they write about Lepidoptera for example and now I think that is because they don´t have learnt the latin names cause they think it´s harder.
Re: Common names in Classifieds
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:53 pm
by kevinkk
You know, it's also interesting that in one point of view, my comment about using the proper name could be considered a little whiny.
Allow me to elaborate- First, let's decide I am not familiar with the species or genus. I'm probably still going to have to look up the name, whatever
it's being called.
But the complaint stands! Use the agreed on Latin, which changes often enough. I just found out that Calosaturnia is the new name for the
formerly Saturnia mendicino, and I'll assume the other Pacific coast "Saturnias".
Re: Common names in Classifieds
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 5:32 am
by jamiejacobsma
I completely agree with the concern about the use of non-Latin names in classified ads. As collectors and enthusiasts, using the proper Latin names is essential for clarity and consistency. Common names can vary widely and often lead to confusion, especially when people aren't familiar with the species. The Latin name, however, provides a universally accepted reference point.
I also think it's important for sellers to adopt this standard, as it helps both experienced collectors and newcomers alike. As mentioned, the scientific names are subject to change, but they remain the most reliable form of identification.
Let's keep pushing for the use of Latin names in the community to ensure accuracy and prevent misunderstandings.
Re: Common names in Classifieds
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 2:58 pm
by kevinkk
It can get also confusing when speaking about plants as well, which is something else we want to be certain of.