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Euphaedra sp. (I.D.) requested

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:57 pm
by Trehopr1
I was gifted a small tupperware of Euphaedra butterflies
from a friend about a year ago. I've read that this is a
difficult genus to identify to very many species so, I am
requesting that someone help me with (possible) species
identifications on these 4 specimens.

The information written on the envelopes is shown. That
is all that I have on them. Several other envelopes had
(RCA) on them so, I am presuming most of the lot came
from there. Unfortunately, these were the only surviving
(good) specimens as all others were lost to booklice
damage.
A.
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B.
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C.
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D.
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I am very grateful to anyone that can be of help !
Many, many thanks....

Re: Euphaedra sp. (I.D.) requested

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:08 pm
by adamcotton
I know nothing about these, but it seems the bottom specimen comes from Forêt du Banco, Abidjan, Ivory Coast rather than CAR/RCA - Central African Republic.

Also the label on the third specimen is just a date, Thursday 3 May 2007. Perhaps there is a location on the other side of the paper. It won't help me, but perhaps it will help someone who knows how to identify these.

Adam.

Re: Euphaedra sp. (I.D.) requested

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:09 pm
by livingplanet3
Euphadra can be difficult, but I'll try:

1. E. zampa (?)
2. E. losinga (?)
3. E. ravola (?) or E. themis (?)
4. E. ravola (?) or E. themis (?)

Re: Euphaedra sp. (I.D.) requested

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:24 pm
by Trehopr1
Hello livingplanet3,

Thank you very much for your assist in helping to identify these butterflies. Sorry, for the late reply but, I just noticed your posting on this matter.

I don't have much in the way of identifying African butterflies.

It would be nice to know which books are regarded as being the best (up to date) versions. Maybe I would then try to get at least one of them.

For now, at least I have something to run with on these. I suppose if someone disagrees with any of your ideas we will hear from them if they wish to be helpful.

Many, many thanks 🙏 for you're taking the time to try and help me with these ! 👏☺️

Re: Euphaedra sp. (I.D.) requested

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:31 pm
by Cabintom
Ventral surfaces. Give me some ventral surfaces! :)

Re: Euphaedra sp. (I.D.) requested

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:05 pm
by Cabintom
Trehopr, I was being serious. Post the ventral surfaces and I'll do what I can to ID these.
The 3rd specimen could do with more data than just a date though. Is there something written on the back of that slip of paper?

Re: Euphaedra sp. (I.D.) requested

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:43 pm
by adamcotton
One way to take good ventral photos is to use a blob of children's 'plasticine' clay which will hold the pin by its head.

Of course the blob must be secured to the background, as I suspect that it will not stick to foam.

Adam.

Re: Euphaedra sp. (I.D.) requested

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:47 pm
by bobw
adamcotton wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:43 pm One way to take good ventral photos is to use a blob of children's 'plasticine' clay which will hold the pin by its head.

Of course the blob must be secured to the background, as I suspect that it will not stick to foam.

Adam.
I use Blu tack.

Re: Euphaedra sp. (I.D.) requested

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 7:58 pm
by Trehopr1
Sorry for the delay Cabintom in getting those
underside pictures. Finally, made time to take them !

A.
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B.
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C.
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Note: this is all that is present on the underside
of the label. Topside: Adam deciphered as Thursday
3.May.2007

D.
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Note: this specimen comes from Abidjan, Ivory Coast
as deciphered by Adam.

I very much appreciate anything that you can do with
these Cabintom. Many thanks to Adam for his "deciphering"
skills of the handwritten (limited) data on each of these !

Re: Euphaedra sp. (I.D.) requested

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:23 pm
by Cabintom
1. Euphaedra (Euphaedrana) sp. (cf. asteria/sangbae)
2. Euphaedra (Medoniana) medon
3. Euphaedra (Euphaedrana) ceres
4. Euphaedra (Euphaedrana) phaethusa