Nymphalis antiopa 2.0

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Nymphalis antiopa 2.0

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Well, so my last attempt was probably amusing, misspelling antiopa for the last 40+ years. An undiagnosed reading disorder.
Anyway, now that all the butt
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erflies are hatched, believe it or not, there's 21 in the cage, I still am unsure how to overwinter
them.
Without more information, I'm going to keep them for a few days in the cage, try to feed them, and then they'll have to
go into storage. The worst that could happen I suppose is I have a bunch of deadstock in the spring.
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kevinkk wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:33 pm Well, so my last attempt was probably amusing, misspelling antiopa for the last 40+ years.
You're not alone. Just two years ago I read here "antiopa" and thought someone misspelled it. Now, I'd read this name repeatedly for the past fifty years, but had been spelling and speaking it "antopia".
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Thanks Chuck, these things happen. Also, without being schooled in Latin I probably mispronounce names as well, I have spoke with some
other Insectnet members on the phone now and then, and had to stop and think when I heard some of the scientific names, I have my
own theories on phonetics.

By the by, all antiopa :) are in the fridge, I fed them once. Not as difficult as I thought, although I did have to do each one by hand. Glassine is for more than just deadstock.
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I studied Latin at school for many years (a long time ago, and I have forgotten almost all of it) but I doubt that the way I pronounce scientific names is 'correct'. For instance I pronounce Papilio clytia and polytes with a 'Y' sound but some other people pronounce them as clitia and polites with a short 'i' sound; perhaps they are right. I suspect that most of us have our own way of pronouncing names, and that they will also differ depending on the nationality of the speaker.

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Latin names are often very difficult for British people.
Note that both "i" and "y" letters are pronounced with a short "i" sound, as in "democracy".
The "a" is a real "a" as in "parrot".
The "ch" is a "k".

Now you can pronounce "Anthocharis" and "Charaxes" and "clytia".
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adamcotton wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:10 pm I suspect that most of us have our own way of pronouncing names, and that they will also differ depending on the nationality of the speaker.

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That's certainly true. At times, it makes me laugh when some English people pronounce a name as though it's an English word. But on many occasions when I've been talking to people from various other European countries, I've been saying a name and they've looked blank, but when after a while the penny drops, they've pronounced it in exactly that same way that I did.

One amusing story when I was on a collecting trip was that an English friend and a German were discussing collecing in Turkey, when the German asked my friend if he had collected hyacinthus. My friend looked blankly at me until after a few minutes I finally worked out what he meant. We pronounce it like the flower the Hyacinth, with a "us" on the end, but the German pronounced it so completely differently (and please forgive my attempt at phonetic spelling) "oo-at-sin-toos".
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