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Cartoon name for new species?

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:51 pm
by Jshuey
I have a bug that I'm about 90% sure is a new one. It's in a genus (Aguna - Hesperiidae) where adults are mostly indistinguishable from one another, until of course, you dissect them.

Well, I've dissected about 70 of them recently, and have stumbled on three definite new species, plus this one. Turns out that there 13 (or 14) species present in NE Peru - pretty amazing! It's distinguishing characteristics are the little sclerotized knob on the harp and the gear-like ampulla that looks exactly like Lisa Simpson's hair-do that sits on top of the harp. I suggested to my wife that I name it after Lisa - and she thinks it's a stupid idea. Something like lisimpsonia.

What do you think? I'm still not entirely convinced that it is new - it looks a lot like A. spatulata. But I have three of the potentially new ones, and seven spatulata - and the differences are very consistent (but minor).

John
LISA SIMPSON


Aguna spatulata

Re: Cartoon name for new species?

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:05 pm
by jhyatt
Are the new one and spatulata sympatric? No difference at all in wing morphology? Seems like a pretty subtle difference to hang a new name on... wonder what DNA analysis might show? That'd at least be a 2nd character to consider.

Nice work,
jh

Re: Cartoon name for new species?

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:10 pm
by Chuck
I think lisimpsonia is a great idea!

John Tennent told me he tried to get Polyura thane pushed through; the reviewers couldn't figure out what he was up to, but knew he was up to something, so wouldn't approve. Snobs.

I threatened to name a new butterfly tennentisapennis but he said he'd kill me. For another bug, I'd suggested naming it for one of my collaborators with "rex" appended to his/ the species name. That didn't go either.

I say do it; if there's that many species, what are you going to name them all based on- color?

Re: Cartoon name for new species?

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:47 pm
by kevinkk
It's about time. Except possibly for Star Trek, The Simpsons is the greatest tv show of all time. There is a Simpsons episode for every facet of modern
life.

Re: Cartoon name for new species?

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:14 pm
by Jshuey
jhyatt wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:05 pm Are the new one and spatulata sympatric? No difference at all in wing morphology? Seems like a pretty subtle difference to hang a new name on... wonder what DNA analysis might show? That'd at least be a 2nd character to consider.

Nice work,
jh
Yes, the potential new one is sympatric with both spatulata and 6 other species that cannot be separated by wing pattern alone. The biggest wing pattern element that differs between species is tail length! And most of these species have at best, subtlety different genetalia (see below). The potential new species is actually easier to separate than most of the others. All four of the species below are sympatric with the potential new one.

John


Re: Cartoon name for new species?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:13 pm
by eurytides
Yeah, I say go for it!

Chuck: rex :)