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Unknown Uganda Euphaedra sp.

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:40 am
by Trehopr1
Here I have a species of Euphaedra which could use
an I.D. Its a lovely chocolate-brown color overall with
little white tips at the apex of the forewings. Seems like
something of a standout species but, I sure can't find it !

Another I.D. much appreciated...

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Re: Unknown Uganda Euphaedra sp.

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:29 pm
by livingplanet3
Trehopr1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:40 am Here I have a species of Euphaedra which could use
an I.D. Its a lovely chocolate-brown color overall with
little white tips at the apex of the forewings. Seems like
something of a standout species but, I sure can't find it !

Another I.D. much appreciated...
It appears to be Euphaedra losinga.

Re: Unknown Uganda Euphaedra sp.

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:41 pm
by Trehopr1
Wow, you nailed this one on the head livingplanet3 !
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My sincere compliments on helping me with this one.
The Euphaedra group is regarded as a tough one to differentiate generally....

You have a good eye and have always been VERY good with identifications. Respect.

Many thanks again !πŸ™

Re: Unknown Uganda Euphaedra sp.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:50 pm
by Cabintom
Looks like E. harpalyce to me... the FW subapical band comes much nearer to the margin in E. losinga (furthermore, it doesn't seem that losinga has been recorded from Uganda).

Re: Unknown Uganda Euphaedra sp.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 7:27 pm
by livingplanet3
Cabintom wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:50 pm Looks like E. harpalyce to me... the FW subapical band comes much nearer to the margin in E. losinga (furthermore, it doesn't seem that losinga has been recorded from Uganda).
The two species are so very similar, and I assume that there is some degree of variability within each, but indeed, thanks for pointing out the above details. I'm by no means particularly familiar with this quite extensive genus.

losinga -

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https://collections-zoology.fieldmuseum ... ue/3014689

harpalyce -

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https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/25044003

Re: Unknown Uganda Euphaedra sp.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:06 pm
by Cabintom
Trehopr, can you post the ventral surface of your specimen?

livingplanet, what's the source of your images? (Do you have the data for the specimens?) Quite possible I'm wrong, but my gut says your top image is a male harpalyce, while the bottom is definitely a female harpalyce.

Re: Unknown Uganda Euphaedra sp.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:20 pm
by Trehopr1
Indeed, cabintom I will get a ventral picture this afternoon
and post it later today.

As mentioned, these butterflies are "danged" numerous over
there AND varied so all is not always what it may seem....

Re: Unknown Uganda Euphaedra sp.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:40 pm
by livingplanet3
Cabintom wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:06 pm livingplanet, what's the source of your images? (Do you have the data for the specimens?) Quite possible I'm wrong, but my gut says your top image is a male harpalyce, while the bottom is definitely a female harpalyce.
Sources added below the images.

Re: Unknown Uganda Euphaedra sp.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:51 pm
by Cabintom
livingplanet3 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:40 pm Sources added below the images.
Hmm... I should have recognized the female harpalyce as my own!

The male from the Field Museum is almost certainly misidentified. It's a typical E. harpalyce spatiosa male. In losinga, the ventral HW features a better developed/more contrasted and narrower white discal band.

For reference:

The ventral surface of the male from the field museum:
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Here's a male of E. harpalyce spatiosa:
Image
(note that losinga is not found in eastern DRC where this specimen was collected)

The male HT of E. losinga knoopi can be seen here: https://virtualcol.africamuseum.be/prov ... ects/20912
Note that ssp. knoopi is very probably a synonym of ssp. wardi.
And here's a box of losinga wardi: https://virtualcol.africamuseum.be/prov ... ects/10416

Re: Unknown Uganda Euphaedra sp.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:04 pm
by Trehopr1
Hello Cabintom,

Here is that underside shot of whatever species this is....

Hope this clarifies this specimens status. Again, it is out
of Uganda.

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Re: Unknown Uganda Euphaedra sp.

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:17 pm
by Cabintom
definitely E. harpalyce spatiosa