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Heraclides/Eurytides from Frech Guyana

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:23 am
by wolf
All these were caught in the same area throughout a 1 week period.

1: Male Heraclides torquatus or H.garleppi? I cant see the difference between the two :P
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2: Female Heraclides torquatus or some Eurytides sp.?
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3: Same as nr 2?
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Re: Heraclides/Eurytides from Frech Guyana

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:24 am
by wolf
4: Same as nr 1 and 2?
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Re: Heraclides/Eurytides from Frech Guyana

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:02 pm
by adamcotton
I think these are all Papilio (Heraclides) garleppi lecerfi (I prefer to treat Heraclides as a subgenus of Papilio).

Eurytides have red spots at the base of the undersides which are absent in Heraclides, among other differences.

Adam.

Re: Heraclides/Eurytides from Frech Guyana

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:08 pm
by adamcotton
In the male, the forewing discal band is broader in garleppi, and there is a small spot in the branch of veins R4-R5 approximately half way along the subapical band, absent in torquatus.

Adam.

Re: Heraclides/Eurytides from Frech Guyana

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:40 am
by wolf
Thanks again Adam! 🙂

Re: Heraclides/Eurytides from Frech Guyana

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:34 am
by teinopalpus
Agree with Adam that all your specimens are Heraclides garleppi ssp.lecerfi. Rather rare and valuable butterfly, especially females. In addition I never saw in life or in any literature female with such extended white markings on forewings as your last female although female is rather variable from all-black forewings to various shaped white pacthes on forewings.

Also rather interesting article about this butterfly is free which point up possibility for this taxon to be full species :
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... pilioninae

Jan

Re: Heraclides/Eurytides from Frech Guyana

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:59 pm
by Chuck
I wasn't familiar with Heraclides garleppi, those females are astonishing! Love this kind of stuff.