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ICZN rules for nom. nov.
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:49 pm
by wollastoni
In 1996, my late friend Henk van Mastrigt renamed
Delias campbelli maria Toxopeus, 1937, in
Delias campbelli cyclops to avoid confusion with
Delias mariae Joicey & Talbot, 1916.
Confusion did happen as Roepke placed
Delias mariae as a ssp. of
Delias campbelli.
So it was a good idea to rename
Delias campbelli maria in
Delias campbelli cyclops to avoid confusion.
This said, after discussing that with some friends from CUNY and the University of Hawaii, they told me van Mastrigt could not rename
Delias campbelli maria in something else
as maria is a subspecies and mariae a species, so there is no confusion at stake according to ICZN rules.
Adam (or any other ICZN specialist), could you confirm that ?
I need to update the
Delias website if Henk did not follow the rules.
Re: ICZN rules for nom. nov.
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:50 pm
by bobw
You can't give anything a new name unless the original name is invalid, even if it's to avoid confusion. The only way that maria would be invalid is if it's a homonym, and the single letter difference is enough for it not to be, there are plenty of such instances. So cyclops has no standing and becomes a objective synonym of maria.
I could look up the relevant parts of the Code and give the references, but I don't have time for that right now.
Re: ICZN rules for nom. nov.
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:01 pm
by adamcotton
Olivier,
Your CUNY and University of Hawaii friends are almost correct. Where they were incorrect is suggesting that there is a difference between species and subspecies names (I suspect you may have misunderstood what they were telling you). There are three types of names governed by the ICZN Code - family-group, genus-group and species-group names. Within each group ALL names are equal and can be applied at different levels. Thus a name in the species group can be used either at species or subspecies level, depending on the taxonomic opinion of the author. It does not matter whether that name was originally introduced as a species or a subspecies.
The names maria Toxopeus, 1937 and mariae Joicey & Talbot, 1916 are not homonyms even though both are species-group names in genus Delias so it was incorrect of Henk van Mastrigt to replace maria with cyclops, and the latter is a junior objective synonym of maria. The only valid reason to propose a nomen novum is if the previous name is unavailable (either infrasubspecific from the original description, a nomen nudum or a junior homonym), and only in the case of homonymy can a new name be proposed as a replacement for the old one. In other cases it has to be described as a new taxon.
I appreciate that it is confusing that there are two subspecies of Delias campbelli, one called maria and another called mariae, but there is nothing that can be done about that under the ICZN Code.
Adam.
Re: ICZN rules for nom. nov.
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:29 am
by wollastoni
Thank you Bob and Adam. If I understand correctly, it's the additional letter "e" (between
maria and
mariae) that prevents Henk from making this change.
I will correct the
Delias website. Should we publish that correction in a future publication or is it non necessary ? I can easily add that to a future
Delias paper.
adamcotton wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:01 pm
I appreciate that it is confusing that there are two subspecies of
Delias campbelli, one called
maria and another called
mariae, but there is nothing that can be done about that under the ICZN Code.
That's not the case :
-
maria is a ssp of
Delias campbelli
-
mariae is another
Delias species.
See my first post for pictures.
Re: ICZN rules for nom. nov.
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:23 am
by adamcotton
Ah, I understood they were still conspecific because you stated:
wollastoni wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:49 pm
"Confusion did happen as Roepke placed
Delias mariae as a ssp. of
Delias campbelli."
You could mention that
cyclops Mastrigt is a junior objective synonym of
maria Toxopeus, 1937 in a future publication.
Adam.
Re: ICZN rules for nom. nov.
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:40 pm
by Chuck
Sort of on topic:
When a ssp is elevated to species status, must the name be retained?
Good example, Papilio glaucus canadensis was elevated to species status, did they have to name it Papilio canadensis, or could they have selected a new name?
Re: ICZN rules for nom. nov.
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:57 pm
by bobw
Yes, because it's a species-group name, which doesn't differentiate between species and subspecies. Whether canadensis is regarded as a species of subspecies, the taxon is still canadensis.