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Osmeteria of P. rumiko
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:43 am
by lamprima2
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Re: Osmeteria of P. rumiko
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:18 am
by lamprima2
I can not figure out how to post the pics in the correct order.
She (judging by the size of 5.5 cm) was retracting the osmeteria.
Re: Osmeteria of P. rumiko
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:06 am
by adamcotton
lamprima2 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:18 am
I can not figure out how to post the pics in the correct order.
She (judging by the size of 5.5 cm) was retracting the osmeteria.
I swapped them round for you, so now they are in the correct order.
Great photos!
Adam.
Re: Osmeteria of P. rumiko
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 3:47 pm
by 58chevy
I also have a problem posting pictures in the correct order. I usually have to post them in reverse order (last one first) in order to make them appear in the correct order. Adam, how do you swap them around?
Re: Osmeteria of P. rumiko
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:48 pm
by Chuck
Click the button that says "Full Editor & Preview" and you can see your post before you submit. That shows you which order the photos are in. Then you can copy/ paste to rearrange.
Re: Osmeteria of P. rumiko
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:15 pm
by lamprima2
adamcotton wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:06 am
lamprima2 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:18 am
I can not figure out how to post the pics in the correct order.
She (judging by the size of 5.5 cm) was retracting the osmeteria.
I swapped them round for you, so now they are in the correct order.
Great photos!
Adam.
Thanks, Adam
Re: Osmeteria of P. rumiko
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:58 pm
by eurytides
The osmeterium of P. cresphontes is bright red. Is the color difference with rumiko consistent?
Re: Osmeteria of P. rumiko
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:00 am
by lamprima2
eurytides wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:58 pm
The osmeterium of P. cresphontes is bright red. Is the color difference with rumiko consistent?
I cannot tell if the color difference of osmeterium between P. rumiko and P. cresphontes is consistent. The color pattern of the adult specimens I could carefully observe matches the one of P. rumiko, given by Shiraiwa et al., 2014. That's why I assume the larvae of the "Giant swallowtail" in my area (Carlsbad, CA) belong to P. rumiko. I often find larvae on citrus trees in my backyard, and I can’t remember one with red osmeterium, though this is just an observation, not a statistic. Unfortunately, I could not find any information on the osmeterium color in the Shiraiwa paper.
Re: Osmeteria of P. rumiko
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:01 am
by eurytides
Yes, based on your location, you have rumiko. All the cresphontes I have seen have bright red osmeteria.
Re: Osmeteria of P. rumiko
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:09 am
by lamprima2
eurytides wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:01 am
Yes, based on your location, you have rumiko. All the cresphontes I have seen have bright red osmeteria.
This is not only based on the location. As I said, the morphology of the butterflies corresponds to
the description of P. rumiko. I read the paper again: the morphology of larvae also matches
P. rumiko. Perhaps, the color of osmeterium is diagnostic.