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This one has me stumped. Thoughts?
-Strong FW apical green sheen
-FW sub-apical band relatively wide
-FW cell about half black
-HW black border relatively the same width the whole way round the wing
-Veins aren't very black as in some species
-Ventral surface relatively unmarked (though that may not be significant)

The closest I could think of is rattrayi, but this would be well out of range, and I believe rattrayi is a darker species as well.

Here's a second one. I believe this is likely E. ochracea.

I know nothing of Euphaera Tom, but love the posts!

I agree with Chuck completely.

I wouldn't know how to distinguish any of these. Hopefully someone knowledgeable will reply, as I would be interested to know what people think.

Adam.

No one with thoughts, eh?

Tom, YOU are the expert, LOL. You keep digging up these odd and obscure Euphaedra from new locations, and opening cans of worms.

Do you have access to a freezer? Reason I ask, if so you could pull a couple legs of each specimen and freeze them for later genetic analysis.

Definitely a difficult group.
J Hecq says that E rattrayi is very common in Kivu and Uganda (Lambillionea . Vol 91. No 3- September 1991), and also mentions a subspecies coeruleomaculata.
This first picture shows some specimens from Western Kenya (Kakamega) that I have identified as E rattrayi coerulomaculata. I have no Kivu specimens that I have determined as E rattrayi.

Secondly a photo taken of part of my drawer showing the same rattrayi males as in the above picture in the right column, with a similar species E alacris males in the left column. These latter alacris specimens are from Kivu.
I will leave this subject here for the moment and see if I can add more regarding E ochracea later.

Chuck wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:03 pm Tom, YOU are the expert, LOL. You keep digging up these odd and obscure Euphaedra from new locations, and opening cans of worms.

Do you have access to a freezer? Reason I ask, if so you could pull a couple legs of each specimen and freeze them for later genetic analysis.

Hey now! If I'm what amounts to being an "expert" on Euphaedra, well, that's disappointing, because I don't feel like I know much. Someone out there ought to invest the time in sorting out the genus.
Your suggestion about freezing legs is an interesting one. I have a chest freezer. I can't guarantee it can stay on 24/7 though. What impact does irregular freeze/thaw events have on the viability of the sample for DNA?

mcheki wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:49 pm Definitely a difficult group.
J Hecq says that E rattrayi is very common in Kivu and Uganda (Lambillionea . Vol 91. No 3- September 1991), and also mentions a subspecies coeruleomaculata.

I think your photos help confirm that my first specimen is not E. rattrayi. Among other differences, my specimen is a sort of brick red, while rattrayi is deeper in colouration. My specimen has a green sheen over the black FW apex, in rattrayi this seems to be more blue.

The best way of preserving legs for molecular analysis is in alcohol, especially if you can't rely on the freezer.