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Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:24 pm
by boghaunter1
Bilateral Gynander Doxocopa cherubina,

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Bilateral Gynander Vindula dejone erotella

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John K.

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:50 pm
by boghaunter1
Beautiful & extremely RARE wild Hybrid of Limentitis arthemis x L. archippus (S.E. U.S.A.)

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White fm. Monarchs = (probably from Hawaii)

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John K.

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:08 pm
by livingplanet3
boghaunter1 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:50 pm ...White fm. Monarchs = (probably from Hawaii)
Interesting - I can't recall having heard of white morph monarchs before.

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:10 pm
by boghaunter1
Wild Collected, One-of-a-Kind, Beyond Rare, "Blue" Colias philodice, from Maryland. At auction on ebay years ago... caused a mild sensation in collector's circles. Big $$$.

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John K.

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:15 pm
by boghaunter1
Ab. Luna moth with melanic tendencies (U.S.A.)

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John K.

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:28 pm
by boghaunter1
Troides sp. Gynander... awesome

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Really? Unbelievable O. goliath procus ab.

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Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:57 pm
by boghaunter1
Colias sp. - Very rare One Quarter Gynander

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Asterope (Callithea) optima ab. (gynander? Hybrid?)

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John K.

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:00 pm
by boghaunter1
Callicore cynosaura, male dorsal, ab., Peru

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Callicore cynosaura, male ventral, ab., Peru

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John K.

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:04 pm
by daveuk
Last two are really lovely John. That Colias looks like C croesus to me. The three female wings look like they belong to form helice.

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:09 pm
by boghaunter1
To reiterate...again not my specimens/none of these are in my collection...just examples from online of really rare stuff, offered for sale in years past, & that not all collectors may be familiar with...

Thanks for possible Colias I.D. daveuk ;)

John K.

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:45 pm
by boghaunter1
Just found another photo, in another file, of the "Blue" C. philodice shown above... it sold for $1,675.00 USD! :o

John K.

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:58 pm
by mothman55
That luna is amazing.
The Goliath looks like a work of either photoshop or UV light.
The colias could be philodice female/eurytheme male??? Or the male wing glued on, as a gynandro as well as 2 species, I don't know, but I am a skeptic.
The blue colias, don't want to even hazard a guess.

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:00 pm
by mothman55
This is an odd H. columbia I got in Central Ontario.
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Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:19 pm
by livingplanet3
mothman55 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:58 pm The Goliath looks like a work of either photoshop or UV light...
I have never before seen an O. goliath that looked like this. True - it may possibly be color-manipulated; either the specimen itself, or with a graphics program. I hope I'm wrong, though - it would be amazing if an aberration like that really does exist! :shock:

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:50 pm
by jhyatt
livingplanet3 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:08 pm
boghaunter1 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:50 pm ...White fm. Monarchs = (probably from Hawaii)
Interesting - I can't recall having heard of white morph monarchs before.
The "white" monarchs were fairly well known from Hawaii a couple or three decades ago. I suspect they might have died out - haven't seen much of them in recent years.

A friend of mine and I were collecting in NE Tennessee many years ago, and he caught a Viceroy with the same "white" coloring as these monarchs. I've only seen that one example of a white Archippus.

jh

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:59 pm
by livingplanet3
jhyatt wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:50 pm
livingplanet3 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:08 pm
boghaunter1 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:50 pm ...White fm. Monarchs = (probably from Hawaii)
Interesting - I can't recall having heard of white morph monarchs before.
The "white" monarchs were fairly well known from Hawaii a couple or three decades ago. I suspect they might have died out - haven't seen much of them in recent years.

A friend of mine and I were collecting in NE Tennessee many years ago, and he caught a Viceroy with the same "white" coloring as these monarchs. I've only seen that one example of a white Archippus.

jh
Just came across this short video -


Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:27 pm
by boghaunter1
& here is another longer YouTube video on rearing/emerging white Monarchs,



John K.

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:23 am
by adamcotton
boghaunter1 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:28 pm Procus male abb spectacular.png
I wonder if this was treated with UV light?

Adam.

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:06 pm
by boghaunter1
Hi jhyatt,

Very interesting comments... especially about the White Viceroy (L. archippus) your friend collected years ago. Does that unique specimen still exist?... & if so.... any possibility of you or your friend posting a pic of that rare White Viceroy here? I would love, as I'm sure many others would as well, to see that absolute rarity! I have never heard of a white Viceroy... :o

John K.

Re: Weird Butterflies/Moths - Albinos, Leucism, Melanism, Gynanders, etc.

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:43 pm
by hewi
adamcotton wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:23 am
boghaunter1 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:28 pm Procus male abb spectacular.png
I wonder if this was treated with UV light?

Adam.
Adam, I am quite sure that the butterfly was exposed to UV light. Parts of the forewings were covered so that the green colour remained.