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Re: Hesperiidae from French Guyana
Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:56 pm
by Jshuey
A quick check just lists Damas clavus. Nick Grishin has sequenced the bug in question, and is pretty sure that it is new.
john
Re: Hesperiidae from French Guyana
Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 3:25 pm
by wollastoni
Great news. Let us know as the ALF is working on a list of FG butterflies.
We have just published a new list, I will check if other Damas species are listed.
Re: Hesperiidae from French Guyana
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:12 am
by wolf
Interesting discussion. I do not have any experience in dissecting butterfly genitalia or other advanced identification methods. I would be willing to send parts of the specimens(legs or whatever), or the whole specimens themselves for that matter, for analysis and identification studies. Just point me in the direction to whom and where to send stuff.
Re: Hesperiidae from French Guyana
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:10 pm
by Jshuey
The conclusion to my end of the story can be found here: THREE NEW SKIPPERS FROM FRENCH GUIANA IN THE GENERA EMMELUS, DAMAS AND METROCLES
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... ESPERIINAE
Re: Hesperiidae from French Guyana
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:51 pm
by Chuck
^^^ I was going to post that today.
Very nice job. Amazing these new species were found in well researched areas.
Re: Hesperiidae from French Guyana
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:58 am
by wollastoni
Congrats John and congrats to Mohamed and Nicolas for catching these !
A great collaboration of several InsectNet members ! I am very happy of that !
There are so many Hesperiidae and Riodiniidae in FG ! The diversity of these families in Amazon is amazing.
I would add that the Kaw Mountain is known for endemism (despite low elevation... there is no real "mountain", altitude max : 337 meters). The most famous endemic from there is Panacaea bleuzeni.
Last addition : it shows that when you let amateur entomologists do field work, science is progressing. A lesson to anti-science countries like Brazil...
Re: Hesperiidae from French Guyana
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:22 am
by wollastoni
John, I have 2 questions for you :
- The French Lepidopterist Association would like to publish an online article about these 3 discoveries on their website :
https://www.lepidofrance.fr/
Could they use some of the article pictures ? They will put a link towards your researchgate article.
- The French Lepidopterist Association has published a
list of French Guiana butterflies but excluded Hesperiidae due to lack of consolidated data. Could you help on that ? I don't know how big is your collection of FG Hesperiidae.
It is a big task as we have listed 1194 butterfly species in FG and there should be around 600 Hesperiidae species according to Daniel Lacomme.
Re: Hesperiidae from French Guyana
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:33 pm
by wolf
Thank you John. This has been a fun experience!
Re: Hesperiidae from French Guyana
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:57 pm
by Jshuey
wollastoni wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:22 am
John, I have 2 questions for you :
- The French Lepidopterist Association would like to publish an online article about these 3 discoveries on their website :
https://www.lepidofrance.fr/
Could they use some of the article pictures ? They will put a link towards your researchgate article.
- The French Lepidopterist Association has published a
list of French Guiana butterflies but excluded Hesperiidae due to lack of consolidated data. Could you help on that ? I don't know how big is your collection of FG Hesperiidae.
It is a big task as we have listed 1194 butterfly species in FG and there should be around 600 Hesperiidae species according to Daniel Lacomme.
Quick answers - Yes - of course you can link to the paper. As to contributing to the skippers of FG, I can help, but I really don't have that much material - perhaps 2-300 specimens total. And almost none of the little brown tribe Moncina are identified (saving these for my retirement).
Let me know how I can assist,
John