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Trehopr1 wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 9:13 pm A very pleasent surprise amongst my recent cache of
papered Stichopthalma is this (male) of S. godfreyi.
It comes from Thailand and was collected in May 2009.

It was somehow mixed-in with all the other material
from Vietnam. This species is probably the "grandest"
of the genus with its variably blue/white (males) and
absolutely enormous and magnificent (females). It is
a "first" and only for me and I'll probably never afford
a female but, you never know....

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Another really beautiful specimen Trehopr.
You were lucky to find this one amongst the Vietnamese material. It sounds like you got a real bargain !!
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Thank you kindly Dave.
Indeed, my purchase has turned out to be a real bargain after the finding of this (male) S. godfreyi. I love them all and now I think I have a decent showing of them.

I feel I owe you a depth of gratitude Dave because of your passionate interest in these butterflies and (your willingness to share your wonderful holdings) with us here. It inspired me immensely to find a small measure of them for myself to enjoy and admire for years...

So, again thank you for your kind comments and for imparting the interest in these through your many posts and threads.
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Trehopr1 wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 3:04 am Thank you kindly Dave.
Indeed, my purchase has turned out to be a real bargain after the finding of this (male) S. godfreyi. I love them all and now I think I have a decent showing of them.

I feel I owe you a depth of gratitude Dave because of your passionate interest in these butterflies and (your willingness to share your wonderful holdings) with us here. It inspired me immensely to find a small measure of them for myself to enjoy and admire for years...

So, again thank you for your kind comments and for imparting the interest in these through your many posts and threads.
Thank You Trehopr. I am very glad that you have been able to obtain a good number of specimens from this beautiful genus in a relatively short time. I remember a thread not so long ago where you said you had no Stichophthalma at all. Very pleased that is no longer the case for you.
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Hey Trehopr,

Hold on to your butterfly net, because I've got something to say! I'm stoked, my friend, in every way!
That thread not long ago when you said, "No Stichophthalma for me!"?
Well, guess what? Things have changed, and boy, am I glad to see!

In a blink of an eye, you've gone from zero to a butterfly stash,
Collecting those Stichophthalma specimens in a flash!
I can't help but chuckle and cheer, oh, what a sight,
From a Stichophthalma-less existence to a collection that's now outta sight!

You've really stepped up your game, my buddy, and it's truly grand,
No more empty shelves, now it's Stichophthalma all on hand!
I'm absolutely thrilled that you've joined the club,
Rockin' that butterfly love, collecting them like a boss!

So, Trehopr, keep chasing those winged wonders with glee,
May your collection expand, bringing laughter and gaiety!
Butterflies and friendship, that's what it's all about,
Cheers to your Stichophthalma success, without a doubt!

Stay fabulous, my butterfly-collecting amigo!
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Thank you for your kind thoughts entomologist.
Perhaps, sometime you could show us some close-ups of your insect drawers or certain individual specimens that you are very proud to have.....
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Having recently completed my "setting work" on my
papered Stichopthalma acquisitions I was for a lack of
drawers to place them in. So, until such time as I am
able to buy new drawers I have housed my specimens
in 3 snap-tight (locking lid) tupperware containers.

Here is how each container looks. In addition, to my
original batch of Stichopthalma I was "gifted" a selection
of 4 additional ones in a recent trade with my friend
and fellow Insectnet member (DaveUK). The (female)
S. uemurai located on the bottom row (center) is one
of Dave's very kind gifts.

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Dave's other 3 specimens come from locations/areas in
Vietnam for which I have no specimens from. They are
diffrent from anything else I've acquired thus far and I will
show them in a day or so upon their removals from the
boards.

Close-up of Dave's (female) S. uemurai

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Thank you DaveUK for your kind thoughtfulness and
help with these butterflies !
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Trehopr1 wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 8:18 pm Having recently completed my "setting work" on my
papered Stichopthalma acquisitions I was for a lack of
drawers to place them in. So, until such time as I am
able to buy new drawers I have housed my specimens
in 3 snap-tight (locking lid) tupperware containers.

Here is how each container looks. In addition, to my
original batch of Stichopthalma I was "gifted" a selection
of 4 additional ones in a recent trade with my friend
and fellow Insectnet member (DaveUK). The (female)
S. uemurai located on the bottom row (center) is one
of Dave's very kind gifts.



Dave's other 3 specimens come from locations/areas in
Vietnam for which I have no specimens from. They are
diffrent from anything else I've acquired thus far and I will
show them in a day or so upon their removals from the
boards.

Close-up of Dave's (female) S. uemurai


Thank you DaveUK for your kind thoughtfulness and
help with these butterflies !
You are welcome Trehopr. I got a very good trade from yourself for them too. You did a wonderful setting job on all of them
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Here is another of Dave's specimens. This is the only
(female) example of which I have of this species. All
my other examples which look similar to this one are
clearly (males); judging by the evidence of their
androconial tufts (of hairs) which are present where
both sets of wings meet along the perpendicular line
and near the base of the hindwings.

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I'm quite excited to have an actual specimen from Da Nang
province Vietnam. For we Americans Da Nang Vietnam has a
certain historical importance about it. It was on the beachhead
of Da Nang on March.08.1965 that the first American combat
forces came ashore.

As a history (minor) I have always been especially
keen on military history from WW1 and forward.
Vietnam has ALWAYS peaked my interest most as I
saw it firsthand on T.V. practically every night in my
youth.

Da Nang would be the most northerly major air base in the
Republic of Vietnam and only 85 miles south of the DMZ.
In time, communist forces of the north would build a series
of underground tunnel complexes under portions of the base
to avoid being "bombed" and to conduct harassment missions.
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Another, really great prize to receive from Dave as well
is this altogather "new" for me (species) of Stichopthalma.
The (male) of the species here is in both color and pattern
diffrent from everything else I have acquired.

If you look closely where the wings meet you can clearly
see the androconial tufts near the base of the hindwings.

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This is yet another find curious for its military historical past.
Its capture location is Hue province Vietnam.The ancient city
of Hue was over-run by communist forces during the Tet offensive
of early 1968. Over the coarse of a month they were gradually
driven out however, this city with significant architectural shrines
and buildings was VIRTUALLY destroyed in the process.

Vietnam certainly seems to have been graced with a plethora
of Stichopthalma species, variations, or even seasonal forms.
I can only feebly attempt through my photographs to convey
their magnificence and my continued interest in these asian
"Jungle Queens".
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I visited Da Nang in 2008 Trehopr. From there I went inland to Hoi An & some mountains nearby. I was very impressed with the variety of butterflies I saw in that part of the world. Sadly I did not see any Stichophthalma & have yet to see any species of this genus on the wing.
Poignant that you should mention Viet Nam in an historical context today Trehopr which I know is Memorial Day for all of you there in the U.S.A. I am sparing a thought from this side of the pond for U.S. veterans & all those who suffered & died serving their country.
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Stichopthalma are seasonal and very localized butterflies.
You have to be in the right place and time to see them.
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Thank you for your sentiments Dave !

On this holiday here our sentiments are that All gave some, Some gave all....
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Alas, my final specimen of (4) from DaveUK
is now posted below. A diffrent and (singular)
location. It is likely the same species as my
above specimen from HUE yet, it has a wide
bluish-purple sheen along the outer margins
of the hindwings. This is not present at all
in the specimen from Hue. Both are males.

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Trehopr1 wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 3:14 am Alas, my final specimen of (4) from DaveUK
is now posted below. A diffrent and (singular)
location. It is likely the same species as my
above specimen from HUE yet, it has a wide
bluish-purple sheen along the outer margins
of the hindwings. This is not present at all
in the specimen from Hue. Both are males.
This species/form is offered very rarely in my experience Trehopr. I think both this one & the previous specimen you posted are forms of Stichophthalma fruhstorferi. As you will know the specimen from Hue is quite a bit smaller than this one. It's a puzzle & one that is unlikely to be solved soon due to the genitalia of all Vietnamese Stichophalma being very similar. As was outlined by Adam Cotton in earlier posts relating to this genus.
When I bid on these specimens last year I missed out on a truly unique form of this one. I kept a picture for reference. From the colouration I think this may possibly even be a hybrid between Stichophthalma howqua & Stichophthalna fruhstorferi. Whoever now owns this specimen has something very special indeed in my opinion.
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Thank you very much Dave for your thoughts and expertise on these !

S. fruhstoferi or these forms of it represent a species I have not had until now. You were very gracious and kind in passing along a couple for me to always enjoy.

They are indeed smaller and different looking than anything else I recently acquired. Perhaps, sometime I may run across something different or unusual in these and I will be sure to pass it along to you.
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Here is my 2nd box , they alla ll from Than Le. Most north Vietnam except the (?) uemurai

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I very recently acquired another batch of papered
Stichopthalma from Vietnam (12 specimens). I won't
show them all here as the bulk appear to all be
"variations" of a singular species.

However, I will show where possible the more curious
individuals based on color variations, size, or anomalies.

Below, I feature 2 males of varying (brown) background
coloration. Both have same data: Gia Lai,Vietnam,5/2021.

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Most of my specimens seem to be males however, a
particularly out-sized example easily proved to be a
female. It too has the same date as the above males.

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My friend daveUK has noted that widespread variation
within most jungle queen species makes it very difficult
to pin down some species, seasonal forms, hybrids, and
odd specimens that just don't seem to fit in anywhere.

I still absolutely love these large, elegant butterflies of
mesmerizing designs and soft colors. So, I will continue
to pick them up whenever I can as their allure is now
like a magnet to me....
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Trehopr1 wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:35 pm My friend daveUK has noted that widespread variation
within most jungle queen species makes it very difficult
to pin down some species, seasonal forms, hybrids, and
odd specimens that just don't seem to fit in anywhere.

I still absolutely love these large, elegant butterflies of
mesmerizing designs and soft colors. So, I will continue
to pick them up whenever I can as their allure is now
like a magnet to me....
More really beautiful specimens there Trehopr.
I find myself wondering quite often if the taxonomical puzzle of the quite recently discovered species in this genus from Viet Nam will ever be solved.
Meanwhile the only thing it seems to me we can do is marvel at the incredible beauty of these insects & their rich & seemingly endless diversity.
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