Williams' Afrotropical Butterflies Encyclopaedia treats nerminae as a good species.

adamcotton wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:02 am

Cabintom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:44 am What do you think? I'm open to suggestions.

Unfortunately this image doesn't display on my computer.

Adam.

I just emailed it to you.

Much of Kalinzu Forest is above 1400m, with peaks at above 1800m.

What do you think? I'm open to suggestions. https://i.imgur.com/ZhnnaVQ.png *EDIT: I've updated the the text in the image to provide more clarity. I had been following the numbering system for veins & spaces from Larsen's "Butterflies of West Africa", but it seems this is a non-standar...

According to Ducarme, who collected extensively in Nord Kivu, it's very common at altitude (particularly around Butuhe, Nord Kivu which is at ~2000m). I have it from one locality (at 1250m), collected along a small river which has heavily disturbed forest on one bank and some stretches of primary fo...

Originally described as a species of Kallima by Rothschild in 1889, was moved to Junonia in 1984, then to a new genus Kamilla in 1991, then back to Junonia in 2005. Here's a specimen of mine: 3/XII/2016 Near Mbogi, Ituri (1°41'55"N, 30°07'35"E) 1250m https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazon...

Thought it was, so would you agree that it’s whitnalli or do you still feel it’s not ? I lean towards the nominate. First, Kalinzu is in western Uganda. Second, "true" whitnalli have those noticeably wide spots in the FW discal band, and longer HW marginal spots. For the specimen in quest...

Just asking, but is the specimen from Kalinzu fst a male or a female ? And is it not mechowi whitnalli? Looks like a female (no claspers!). The nominate is found in the W. Ugandan forests, while whitnalli is said to be central & east Ugandan. What the exact delineation is between the two, I'm n...

These are really stunning! (understatement) What are the ventral surfaces like?

Col. 4, specimen 10. I don't know what to say about this one, but if it's from Kalinzu Forest it's not going to be gallienus like I thought. Can I get a photo of the dorsal surface? (This may be a "stick in the spokes" of my hypothesis...) Column 4 Specimen 10 Both sides of this specimen....

Col. 3, Specimens 1 & 2.: I was sure these were gallienus (based on the FW discal band), but the location makes that more than improbable. (Now that I look at it again, the shape of the HW of #2 is that of mechowi). Could I see dorsal/ventral pics of these too? Pictures of the two specimens fro...

Outside of those 2 specimens, looking at the first 4 specimens of Col. 1 again, and I'm far less certain they are gallienus than before. If it's not too much trouble, could you post pics of these as well? Here are pics of both sides of the four specimens in Column 1 that you listed. DSC00651.JPG DS...

We have yet spoke about that but the Papilionidae of Africa are clearly to be revised as many "species" are not clearly defined or recognised. We just solved the problem of the "bromius" for which I had a suspicion of bad nomenclature. New infos are coming I'm looking forward to...

androconial scales on male FW is on both species and FW yellow band is very much variable, not a good character. It is usual that Hanckok publish such b... infos. He did the same in other groups of African butterflies. I did not post the Hancock text because it is accurate, but because Tom, and oth...

These are the two “uncertain” gallienus from Column 2 that you requested pictures of. First each showing the surface as in the drawer and in the next picture the opposite surface. As presented in drawer.JPG Both reversed.JPG first is gallienus, second is mechowi Ce n'est pas compliqué ? (It's not c...

apologies if the res is not high enough but location wise RDC up to females, then Cameroon, then RCA It's tougher with the lo-res, but it looks to me that you've got the boxes well organized. I'd peg everything as gallienus , except for the last box (last 2 images) which are mechowi . I've DM'd you...

Hi Cabintom, I have literally hundreds and hundreds of these, way too many to post here so not sure how to best send the pics? But let me know, I spend hours and hours looking at these to try to determine common characteristics 😂 it would be interesting to see if we concur Could you create a shared...

Here is a list of collection localities as you requested. Thanks for the localities! and for helping me stress test my assumptions. I was feeling confident I could arrive at accurate IDs based primarily on the composition of the FW discal, but looking through them again with fresh eyes and I have t...

PYRCZ, T.W., FLORCZYK, K., COLLINS, S., SÁFIAN, S., MAHECHA-J., O. & LACHOWSKA-CIERLIK, D. 2021. Alpha-taxonomy and phylogeny of African Junoniini butterflies based on morphological data, with an emphasis on genitalia, and COI barcode (Lepidoptera: Nymphalidae). Zootaxa 4991 (3): 401-433.

Thomas, it would certainly be of great interest to the "African" entomologists/collectors if you could explain the differences which allow the 2 species to be separated. Thanks. That's what I'm working towards doing. The ABRI collection has 5 boxes split between the two species, but many ...