I agree with all the above. For me, a physical scientific collection is priceless and cannot be replicated with photographs of live individuals.

!!!!!! Dude. I hope you locate them. If not, you can always just find another one and designate that as a holotype…as annoying as that might be. Or if you want, I can designate one from my collection.

Keep an eye out for pipevine and zebra swallowtails.

I find the word “typical” helpful in these situations. Typical, X is found at location Y.

Definitely breeds in Canada. Reaches some pretty northern locales. The map is just inaccurate.

Chuck, what happens with the genus Amphion? I thought this was still legit?

Yeah, I say go for it!

Chuck: rex

That’s very cool. Do you have pictures? If you do, you could consider publishing the observations.

Chuck, where did you capture this fabulous pair of Nihilis absentus?

Compressed air? I mean, carefully utilized of course.

Chuck, tell us more about the ones that are not MST, canadensis, or glaucus?

Have not really gone out looking. Did find a live male cecropia cocoon. Promethea is the other one that’s common in my area but I have not looked for them since I raised a bunch in the summer and have some in the garage.

So Adam, was Doritis at one time a genus of orchid and butterfly simultaneously? Does the Code have something to say about these types of situations?

Fun fact, until recently, Doritis was a genus of orchid. It has since been merged with the genus Phalaenopsis.

Yeah I downloaded it, in case I need it in the future. But I didn’t reply because I don’t collect Morphos currently. Never even been to South America. A lot of people just read stuff and don’t reply unless they think they have something to add that’s important to the community. I think I learn far m...

Thanks Adam. I was not aware of this lectotype. When Pavulaan and Wright described Papilio appalachiensis in 2002, they actually designated a neotype for Papilio turnus. Is this still valid?

Hi all,

“Turnus” is an old name associated with Papilio glaucus. When I look this up, I see references to Papilio turnus, Papilio glaucus turnus, and Papilio glaucus form turnus.

Does anyone know more about the usage of “turnus” or can provide the original description?

Yikes. I didn’t spend enough time looking to pick up on that!

There is one record on iNat. Not sure if you can see what you need to from the photo, but if no one has a specimen, it might be worth checking it out.

So if an inspector doesn’t show up, what happens? Are you just free to go?