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wollastoni · by wollastoni » Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:19 pm

Sure as you can see, the app does not include "犹" in the original text so it doesn't translate it.
It includes only the character it recognizes of course. If the label was less blured, it would have included it.

In this example, Shichinohe town is a precise enough locality.

Yes it is a P. citrinarius specimen, a classic locality for it.

benihikage92 · by benihikage92 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:14 pm

It seems like a great app. However, to ensure, you might as well have it checked with a native speaker of the language used for the label.

The app failed to read 犹, which is not an often-used character, skipped it, and translated it as "flowers." 犹花 is the name of a place.

So the label should be:
七戸町/犹花　
Shichinohe Town / Ezobana

Is it a label for a Parnassius citrinarius specimen?

Kuni

wollastoni · by wollastoni » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:29 pm

Thanks Adam, it is in the "Blog" section.

Not sure it deserves a specific menu section.
Maybe in the future when we will have more "tools".

By the way, if you guys dream of any other digital tools that could be useful. I would be happy to think about it.

adamcotton · by adamcotton » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:22 pm

This looks really useful for collectors and researchers.

Will a link to this service be posted on the Insectnet homepage or somewhere easy to find? Currently it seems only to be accessible through this thread.

Adam.

wollastoni · by wollastoni » Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:57 pm

All entomologists are sometimes faced with this problem: you have a specimen with a label written in Chinese, Japanese or any language you don’t know well (French, Czech…) … or a label in English badly written by a previous collector.

You’d like to know where the specimen comes from and when it was collected.
InsectNet is there for you! Discover the Insect Label Decipherer.

This is what it does on a Japanese label :

: insect-label-decipherer.png (211.4 KiB) Viewed 27 times

Now you know that it comes from the city of Shichinohe (Japan), the collecting date, that the specimen was caught on a flower and you have the name of the collector !
You even have a Google Map link towards the identified locality !

The maximum size for the label is 1 MB.

Please try it and let me know if it can be improved.
It took me few weeks to develop it and I hope it will be useful to some of you. Let your collector friends know about it.

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Chuck · by Chuck » Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:17 pm

Typically males emerge days or more before females. With most Saturnids especially, the males are at the female within minutes after she starts calling.

Overwintering more than one year is apparently more common than I thought. Just yesterday I was told by a researcher about western Papilio (I’d have to guess indra) May diapause through three winters. Even more interesting, the parasitic Ichneumon does likewise. It makes sense to ensure species survival through a dry summer or fires. What’s really mind blowing though is the arms race with the parasite!

You may be frustrated with your female, but they do things for a reason, even if we don’t understand it.

kevinkk · by kevinkk » Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:45 pm

Has this happened to you?

Your livestock, after being diapaused for an atypical amount of time, hatches, and the female lays eggs almost immediately, meaning
that instead of sitting and looking pretty for several days or more, she starts laying on night number 1.

I can see the logic in animals waiting for the right conditions and remaining for more than one season, but it's not going to help the
species if eggs are being laid with only a matter of hours in which to pair up.

I've noticed that eventually virtually everything that can happen, will happen, but besides being frustrating, it's a minus for the species.

Innsaneink · by Innsaneink » Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:47 am

Thanks very much paul

kevinkk · by kevinkk » Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:23 am

Chuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:55 pm Well done! You must be excited after such an effort.

Chuck, I am excited about it. After I made the post, I was thinking that there is a particular feeling of accomplishment having the effort bring some results, now, it may be simply providing the right conditions, or just luck, sometimes, it seems both work equally well, or not.
Right now, I have the female in a cooler room in a separate cage and it remains to be seen if a male will hatch in the window of
opportunity.
A beautiful animal, looking much like our Hyalophora, or Rothschildia.

Sometimes we try and replicate native conditions to give the insects the best chance, sometimes it works, even this last season, I had some
Citheronia splendens pupa which I'd raised from ova, overwintered them, and while all hatched, there weren't any matings , however,
a buyer who bought only 3 pupa, 2 females and 1 male, had a pairing, there's a lottery win right there.
Just getting a pairing is only part of the process, fertile ova, and accepted food plant, assuming it's available considering our seasonal changes.

x106x · by x106x » Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:05 am

Did you ever get your bugs?

Chuck · by Chuck » Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:55 pm

Well done! You must be excited after such an effort.

kevinkk · by kevinkk » Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:32 pm

At long last, after at least 13 months I have an adult female, having hatched last night.
An interesting development, I brought the cocoons back into the warm room about 2 months ago,
and after reading a similar post on the Actias site, decided to renew the effort, cycling the heater
and humidifier the last couple days.
The cage I use for climate control, you can see is plastic, I have a small wall heater and the humidifier
to increase moisture and heat. Apparently something worked, or perhaps it's just time.
Now, I can leave (probably) her for a few days before the specimen has a risk of flight damage.

: Epiphora lugardi female 1-12-25.JPG (58.33 KiB) Viewed 66 times

Paul K · by Paul K » Sun Jan 12, 2025 1:37 pm

It’s a weevil beetle

Innsaneink · by Innsaneink » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:45 am

Mr Cat found this on.the kitchen floor... I had to squish it as. Mr cat was about to eat it.... (I better feed him)
Is this a tick.... Cat goes Outside into the garden occasionally.

Thanks

wollastoni · by wollastoni » Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:10 pm

Trehopr < thank you for starting this very interesting thread.

kevin < I love the article ! Nowadays the USDA would knock at your doors the day after publication !

kevinkk · by kevinkk » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:05 pm

I appreciate your comments as well, yes, 68 people sounds like a lot, and it is probably accurate, I say probably, because there are inaccuracies
in the story, albeit minor ones, for instance I did not bring any night collecting equipment, but was lucky enough to be allowed to use another's
mercury lamp, and also go with a couple guys who set up a uv light, and then we went into the deserted town and streetlighted.
And the cyanide line is not accurate at all, I didn't start using cyanide until I bought some in Nevada at a mining supply, I wonder if that's still
possible.

None of the butterfly pupa hatched successfully, all the sphinx pupa turned out however.

I don't recall any injuries, except for my cabana mate who believed some locals when he was told the water they had was filtered:(

I did eat the best pineapple I have ever had, cold, out of the fridge, dripping juice.

I learned a little about driving- our driver would honk around every corner, a technique I have used a couple times here at home when the road was blocked by tourists.

I met a number a great people,I don't recall names however, one gentleman from Chicago who specialized in gynandromorphs, who I was pen pal with for a while, and generally all wonderful persons who were more or less like minded.

Trehopr1 · by Trehopr1 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:29 pm

Thank you kindly Kevin for posting your travel article.

So, as best I can figure either you were on the same trip that my friend was on (my friend could have been off one year in telling his story) or it could be that Tom Emmel made a second trip there the very next year in 1982.

Tom Emmel was a successful and well-known lepidopterist/professor at the University of Gainesville Florida. He would host many trips to different places throughout the 1980s and 1990s (including into the early 2000s). I went 2X on trips with him in both 1988 (Ecuador) and 1989 (Bolivia).

Up until about 1994/1995 his trips were very affordable with all needed permits arranged. However, after that the trips became much more expensive as he started going further away to more exotic and expensive locales in Africa and Southeast Asia. At that point for me any dreams of going anywhere else were squashed due to the much more inflated expense of travel.

I'm eternally grateful to Tom Emmel for having made the trips that I did. He was an absolute gentleman and seasoned professional in the science. He was ever helpful as a host and the places that I stayed at were quite nice, clean, and comfortable. Some trips would have fewer participants so I'm sure that always worked out better overall.

In reading your article of your trip it was mentioned that there were 68 participants involved. That's pretty crazy

to even imagine a group that big. The trips I went on were nowhere near that number. In fact, given the "so few trails" available to navigate for specimens (in the places I visited) there wouldn't have been much left to catch for anyone caught at the end of a long line of nets in front of you.

Thank you again Kevin for your article.

kevinkk · by kevinkk » Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:20 pm

Trehopr1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:15 pm sorry to hear that you lost your treasures to a relationship
event but, thru your fond memories of your trip and pictures
you can re-live it to some extent anytime....

Well, these things happen. Sometimes anyway.
I have the newspaper article from when I returned, I'll find a slow day soon and get something going for the thread.
I really remember it as being before 1982, as I was 16, going on 17 later that July, in any event all the experiences we have out of country are
memorable in one fashion or another, my biggest regret of the past is however- not taking more risks and getting out of the comfort zone, I'm
envious of more the more traveled.
Couldn't have been June of '82 when I went, I graduated that year and recall taking my photo album to school, the trip was however very affordable,
although working for Dad in the construction business I made an abnormal amount of money compared to my peers.

I've scanned the article, I don't know how it'll read, but I'm trying...

Trehopr1 · by Trehopr1 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:34 pm

Thank you very kindly as well Paul K for your
thoughtful remarks about my article.

I would very much like to see or hear of your story
(trip) which you made to French Guiana ! Now, there's
a REAL exotic locale. Perhaps, in time you could cobble
togather an article similar somewhat to mine (really
an overview) of your experience there.

I would love to see some of your wonderful captures.

I do recall you mentioning your own capture of Titanus
giganteus. As well, you have in the past posted photo's
of Oryba kaydeni and Agrias narcissus which you also
captured whilst there.

All would make for some exciting reading for our
members here.

I would add that ANYONE with an interesting story
to tell us of some exotic insect excursion they have
taken is certainly welcome to post it here in Field
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