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Buying specimens in bulk for an entomology workshop
by nitinra » Thu May 09, 2024 3:45 am
I am conducting a Lepidoptera workshop for Native American school kids in Montana in June. I will be taking kids out to the field to observe and identify local butterflies, followed by light trap for some moths. I also want them to get an experience on pinning butterflies and maybe take a few dead ones home. I am looking for suggestions for sellers who sell wholesale butterflies (common ones) that you have good experience with. I recently ordered from Insect-sale.com and they were great! I am hoping to get a bit more diversity in the specimens that the kids can take home and hence looking for other options. I don't want to buy from etsy and would rather support an entomological collector/supplier. The size of the class is ~30 kids and I plan to have each kid go with ~10 Lepidoptera each.
Thanks for your help!
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Re: Agrias aedon question
by Annarobertson1947 » Thu May 09, 2024 3:06 am
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Re: Just Off The Boards
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Re: Has anyone heard of the seller Roger An?
by kevinkk » Wed May 08, 2024 10:11 pm
before payment, but it's more of a EU practice.
I've only had a couple people send diapuased material before a payment as well.
No matter our economic status, nobody wants to make unintended "donations" I certainly have no extra money, it's
all spoken for.
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Just Off The Boards
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Re: Has anyone heard of the seller Roger An?
by adamcotton » Wed May 08, 2024 9:15 pm
I don't think kevink was in any way implying that you wouldn't have paid on receipt. I think he just meant that you can't expect a seller to want to send goods without payment up front.
On the other hand, you definitely did the right thing posting on Insectnet to check whether anyone knows the seller. If nobody can vouch for him I would be wary, especially if the seller initiated the offer to you.
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Re: Has anyone heard of the seller Roger An?
by butterflygirl » Wed May 08, 2024 4:32 pm
I don't mind paying and I don't expect anything for free . I was scammed out of 50 dollars I had been saving for this hobby and since I'm poor I can't afford to throw money at people and not get what I paid for. I will pay with friends and family to people I know and pay beforehand. I don't know where you're getting that I expect anything for free. Once I received the materials I would have paid. I was trying to check with people here before I make a mistake.kevinkk wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 4:22 pm If the email is unsolicited, I'd be more than cautious. It's probably a scam, that means most likely, not 100%. I get unsolicited email often
enough, and never answer it unless I am familiar with the individual. We all have regular contacts,
and sometimes those persons will contact me, but I know them.
About payments- Sometimes, in fact, most of the time, payment has to be made first, there is postage to consider, as well as the seller, I wouldn't
send anyone anything for "free" unless it was going to further a relationship already made, that's simply the way it is. Also, not every obscure payment method is a scam, I have used Western Union before, although it cost me more than the material itself, and I had the person verified by someone I knew was trustworthy.
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Re: Has anyone heard of the seller Roger An?
by kevinkk » Wed May 08, 2024 4:22 pm
enough, and never answer it unless I am familiar with the individual. We all have regular contacts,
and sometimes those persons will contact me, but I know them.
About payments- Sometimes, in fact, most of the time, payment has to be made first, there is postage to consider, as well as the seller, I wouldn't
send anyone anything for "free" unless it was going to further a relationship already made, that's simply the way it is. Also, not every obscure payment method is a scam, I have used Western Union before, although it cost me more than the material itself, and I had the person verified by someone I knew was trustworthy.
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Has anyone heard of the seller Roger An?
by butterflygirl » Wed May 08, 2024 2:32 pm
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Re: Agrias aedon question
by Annarobertson1947 » Wed May 08, 2024 7:42 am
Have always wondered about Aedon.
Your insight is greatly appreciated
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Re: Agrias aedon question
by Jshuey » Wed May 08, 2024 12:16 am
Interestingly amydon behaves the same way in Belize - only much more rare. Never inside a trap, just flying around the outside of it. Just three records for the entire country. This one in limestone forest.
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Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Tue May 07, 2024 11:18 pm
Judith's Underwing (Catocala judith). The wingspan
is 45-55mm. This small black species was named by
Herman Strecker in 1874.
Although, somewhat common at times I have always
found it difficult to retain very many choice and/or
clean examples. The black hindwings get very easily
marred, scratched or worn in a very short amount of
time seemingly....
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Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Tue May 07, 2024 11:07 pm
known as the Serene Underwing (Catocala serena).
As with most catocala it has one generation a year.
I have found it to be an infrequent visitor in my region.
A delightful find when in good condition.
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Agrias aedon question
by Annarobertson1947 » Tue May 07, 2024 7:49 am
Is there a combination of reasons for Agrias aedon to be scarce in collections as it occurs over a large range and supposedly along with other Agrias species.
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Re: Blood Sucking Mites living on our skin
by Panacanthus » Mon May 06, 2024 4:38 pm
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Re: Beetle?
by Trehopr1 » Mon May 06, 2024 2:52 pm
Despite their shortened wing covers they're flying wings unfold quite nicely from beneath them thus they are very capable flyers. It's springtime and you may have gotten in a couple while a door or window was open for a time or they could have come in under the threshold of an outer door to your home where there is oftentimes a gap.
You might try looking up the term common Rove beetles of Britain on the internet and it may show you some of the most commonly encountered ones. Perhaps this one will look like one of the pictures. Any reference book specifically on the insects of Britain will likely also show a page or so of some examples as well.
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Re: Beetle?
by livingplanet3 » Mon May 06, 2024 2:39 pm
It's a beetle of the family Staphylinidae (the rove beetles) -
https://www.ukbeetles.co.uk/staphylinidae
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rove_beetle
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Re: Blood Sucking Mites living on our skin
by Chuck » Mon May 06, 2024 12:21 pm
"real" of course, but it's not what you think.CaribLife wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 10:13 pm You guys are just brutal. The pictures were taking when they were biting us as you can see they are sitting on our skin and you can actually see their legs are going inside our skin. Take a close look before you judge people. If you don't know that's ok we haven't had anyone able to identify them but they are certainly real.
Those are not legs. They are more likely clothing fibers of some sort.
The top left image does not appear to be an animal.
The top right image appears to be skin and a fiber.
If any of the others are animals, they've been rolled, squished, or whatever.
Some of the remainder do show a "thread" piercing the skin, though it appears that the thread is not part of your skin, nor of the purported parasite, but an independent fiber that has penetrated skin and/or the whatever-it-is.
To me, the "parasites" look like skin that has been rolled/squished. You may be being bitten, but I don't think it's those things you showed, I think it's the fiber that appears in most of the photos. Keeping in mind that not all bites are felt immediately- chiggers in particular; by the time you feel something the actual event has long passed.
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Beetle?
by Renegade » Mon May 06, 2024 8:30 am
Black head, Cooperish body and black bottom.
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Re: Blood Sucking Mites living on our skin
by adamcotton » Mon May 06, 2024 6:35 am
If you are being bitten by something I suspect that it bites and then leaves your skin immediately.
Adam.