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Eddie-Bug · by Eddie-Bug » Tue Sep 26, 2023 5:08 pm

Thanks both,

That's definitely it;: Those zig-zag markings are surely singular.

We have lots of conifers of different types.

Those guides say that they seek indoor shelter to overwinter, and my 2nd photo (on blue) shows it crawling around the outside of our summerhouse (glorified shed). Temperatures are just beginning to drop a little here (from low to mid 20s down below 20C).

Regards,

Eddie

livingplanet3 · by livingplanet3 » Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:58 pm

artslet wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:23 pm Hello, i think that this is a tettigonidae, and i think i'ts Thyreonotus, but i'm not really sure and don't know if it's corsicus.
Anybody can help? It's in Spain, Alicante...

It appears to be Thyreonotus corsicus -

http://www.pyrgus.de/Thyreonotus_corsicus_en.html

livingplanet3 · by livingplanet3 » Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:49 pm

Eddie-Bug wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 2:44 pm Here we go again. Have re-posted the snaps with green ticks against each. Both are just under 500KB.

By the way, I believe it is a member of Hemiptera....

The Western conifer seed bug (Leptoglossus occidentalis), an introduced species to the UK -

https://www.rhs.org.uk/biodiversity/wes ... r-seed-bug

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_conifer_seed_bug

https://bugguide.net/node/view/3393

adamcotton · by adamcotton » Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:18 pm

Yes, it is a Hemipteran bug. Hopefully someone here familiar with UK species can give you a better identification.

Adam.

artslet · by artslet » Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:23 pm

Hello, i think that this is a tettigonidae, and i think i'ts Thyreonotus, but i'm not really sure and don't know if it's corsicus.
Anybody can help? It's in Spain, Alicante
Thanks

Eddie-Bug · by Eddie-Bug » Tue Sep 26, 2023 2:52 pm

Adam,

Thanks for your response, and the correction.

Regards,

Eddie

Eddie-Bug · by Eddie-Bug » Tue Sep 26, 2023 2:44 pm

Here we go again. Have re-posted the snaps with green ticks against each. Both are just under 500KB.

By the way, I believe it is a member of Hemiptera.

adamcotton · by adamcotton » Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:57 am

eurytides wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:42 pm One of the authors, V. Nazari, works at the CNC in Ottawa.

Vazrick Nazari is now affiliated to an Italian institution. I don't know if he also retains his position in Ottawa or not.

Adam.

adamcotton · by adamcotton » Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:48 am

Jan,

Thank you for your vote of approval. Yes, the subspecies classification of Papilio machaon does seem much better. Some authors wanted to include almost all European populations in ssp. machaon, but I persuaded them to keep three main subspecies (plus britannicus and sphyrus). We managed to work out the problems across southern Europe, through Turkey to Iran by including the Iranian populations in ssp. centralis and everything to the west in ssp. aestivus (syriacus is a junior synonym of that name).

Unfortunately ssp. sylvina from Taiwan has not been seen since the earthquake of 1999 when there were serious landslides in the montane habitat where the foodplant grew (thanks to Prof. Hsu for this information). As a result we were not able to examine fresh specimens. Vazrick Nazari originally wanted to include sylvina in P. hippocrates, but since we were unable to provide any evidence we decided to retain it in P. machaon.

P. archias does look similar to P. verityi, and we were originally going to include it as a subspecies of the latter, however Nazar Shapoval found that the DNA of archias is very different to both P. machaon and P. verityi so we separated it at species level. Note there is usually a thin black edge below the red anal eye spot in archias, whereas verityi normally has no black below the eye spot. Also there are differences in tail length (the tails of verityi are much longer) and in the black shading near the anal margin of the hindwing.

Adam.

teinopalpus · by teinopalpus » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:18 am

Great book - just arrived. Good addition to series. I like simplified subspecies tree with machaon - especially many southeuropean ssp were ridiculous, also alexanor merging is probably justifiable. To be true I am little surprised that ssp.sylvina from Taiwan remains only subspecies, it is rather different and many taiwaneese butterflies have species status. Also differences between verityi and archias are rather subtle, maybe inside machaon range we will find bigger ones. But have no clue about DNA work, probably DNA will support authors decision.

Jan

adamcotton · by adamcotton » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:28 pm

Eddie,

I think you lost the photo attachment. If you are having problems see
viewtopic.php?t=4
for ways to upload photos. They must be less than 800kb in size.

Adam.

adamcotton · by adamcotton » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:25 pm

Eddie,

Welcome to Insectnet, and thanks for adding the Latin names. Please note that genus names should start with a capital letter, but species names start with a small one, so Macroglossum stellatarum and Celastrina argiolus (note spelling argiolus).

Adam.
(Originally from Brum, but been in Thailand since 1981)

Eddie-Bug · by Eddie-Bug » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:09 pm

macroglossum stellatarum, vanessa atalanta, celastrina argiolos, acanthosoma haemorrhoidale, pyrochroa coccinea

on

equisetum japonicum, malus domestica, crataegus monogyna, Ilex aquifolium, hedera

Eddie-Bug · by Eddie-Bug » Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:37 pm

Apologies - I'm working on the Latin

jhyatt · by jhyatt » Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:54 pm

Vernon, Have you ever found that bait traps placed in the canopy attract different species consistently compared to those near ground level?
Tks,
J. Hyatt

Eddie-Bug · by Eddie-Bug » Mon Sep 25, 2023 12:49 pm

Hello,

My name is Eddie and I live in the UK, in Hertfordshire, which ia in the sourh of England.

I'm just an amateur interested in wildlife. We very rarely see anything even mildly exotic, the last I remember was a hummingbird hawk moth that visited our pond years ago.

We have fruit trees, hawthorn, holly, and ivy, so we get red admiral and holly blue butterflies, plus shield bugs. Various unusual wasps, etc find their way into our conservatory.

I keep a small log pile, and the occasional beetle (eg a cardinal) crawls out to say hallo.

So, pretty mundane really.

But I have just posted about the bug - large for us - that we have for a while.

Best wishes,

Eddie

Eddie-Bug · by Eddie-Bug » Mon Sep 25, 2023 10:16 am

Great photos

Eddie-Bug · by Eddie-Bug » Mon Sep 25, 2023 10:14 am

Spotted this yesterday in Hertfordshire UK on my gate. Still around today.

Can't find it in my British Insects book.

Body length 20mm.

See photos. Would add a short video but it won't accept mp4.

58chevy · by 58chevy » Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:43 pm

Call the Guinness Book of World Records!

vabrou · by vabrou » Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:33 pm

Location Louisiana, USA

Over 54 years automatic-capture high-wattage light traps were operated for 1,390,000 light-trap hours.

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