-
- Posts: 62
- Joined: Thu May 04, 2023 12:31 am
Re: A beautiful fournierae pair
by Annarobertson1947 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:47 pm
I importcas set specimens, pinned with usually 4 abdominal ,2 in fw hinge and 2 half way up fw.
So far never damaged, this is from France and Germany.
Double boxed with foam peanuts usually.
I also send to Europe, Germany,,Czech Republic, China, no issues but on 2 occasions I sent to France, one destroyed and my fault, used new adhesive to hold foam base it gave way and that cost me.
The other time parcel vanished in transit, a bigger cost.
But generally, have had no damage over probably 20 parcels .
With delicate like tailed specimens i send papered as on a flat piece of cardboard and clear plastic stapled closely around specimen.
Then Double boxed.
-
- Global Moderators
- Posts: 982
- Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:48 am
Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:36 pm
I really appreciate the contributions to the thread. It helps to show some of the species (variety) as well as some of the named forms.
You have certainly run across a broad spectrum of forms I've never seen before. I appreciate the learning experience I'm gaining from your pictures. Of course, some very NICE specimens as well !
If possible, could you provide pictures of C. cara or C. relicta you may have run across ?
Both species are hands down favorites of mine but, I only encounter C. cara very sporadically (as singles); thus I have only gotten 4 nice ones myself plus 2 more from another collection. C. relicta is nonexistent in my general area but, I have picked up five specimens from another collection which are quite nice.
-
- Premium Member - 2024
- Posts: 100
- Joined: Mon May 23, 2022 12:09 pm
Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by mothman55 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:46 pm
-
- Premium Member - 2024
- Posts: 100
- Joined: Mon May 23, 2022 12:09 pm
-
- Premium Member - 2024
- Posts: 100
- Joined: Mon May 23, 2022 12:09 pm
Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by mothman55 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:41 pm
-
- Global Moderators
- Posts: 982
- Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:48 am
Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:01 pm
Thank you for posting a picture of some of your captures.
C. robinsonii just happens to be one of MY least encountered "black" species within my general region. The example I posted is the BEST example I have found although, I have encountered it on a couple of other occasions. However, those specimens were not worth keeping !
Since you live in the far northeast where the wooded regions are quite a bit more considerable (than Illinois) then you likely encounter species which I may not see here or of which are more local.
I didn't mean to imply that it was a rare species (in general). Rarity/scarcity is better applied to such species as C. marmorata, C. sappho, or C. atocala; all of which tend to be quite localized or strays (at times).
Yes, some species can be quite common at times and in different places. I can discern from your photograph that you have (at least) 3 species which appear to be common.
The unit tray at the top has 3 Catocala residua (in a row on the far left). The two smaller gray specimens on the far right look to be Catocala judith. Residua has a "squiggly" white band located on the forewing towards the outer edges.
In the lower unit tray you have (at least) another 3 C. residua along with a third species (two specimens) in the middle column --- which are Catocala epione. They are respectively the very center specimen and the one (right below it). C. epione also happens to be the very first named catocala species (here). Dru Drury (a British entomologist) described it in 1773. It is commonly called the Epione Underwing.
I cannot tell too much more from the remaining specimens either due to lighting or some measure of wear. But, it is good to see that you do make an effort at capturing them.
I will post some additional species soon....
Thank you for your interest in these and the article.
-
- Premium Member - 2024
- Posts: 584
- Joined: Tue May 24, 2022 4:55 pm
Re: Rarities in Charaxes
by livingplanet3 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:31 pm
Beautiful specimens!daveuk wrote: βWed Mar 20, 2024 1:27 pmAgree with that livingplanet. I think that it has not been bred for a while now as I rarely see them offered these days. Here are my nominate pair from Java. Have a couple more males also.livingplanet3 wrote: βWed Mar 20, 2024 1:01 amIt seems that some years ago, someone must have captive-reared a number of dehanii - my pair seems far too perfect to have ever flown.Annarobertson1947 wrote: βWed Mar 20, 2024 12:38 am Are they breeding Polyura dehaani or all wild caught?
-
- Premium Member - 2024
- Posts: 584
- Joined: Tue May 24, 2022 4:55 pm
Re: Rarities in Charaxes
by livingplanet3 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:29 pm
-
- Premium Member - 2024
- Posts: 888
- Joined: Mon May 23, 2022 8:08 pm
Re: Rarities in Charaxes
by daveuk » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:27 pm
Agree with that livingplanet. I think that it has not been bred for a while now as I rarely see them offered these days. Here are my nominate pair from Java. Have a couple more males also.livingplanet3 wrote: βWed Mar 20, 2024 1:01 amIt seems that some years ago, someone must have captive-reared a number of dehanii - my pair seems far too perfect to have ever flown.Annarobertson1947 wrote: βWed Mar 20, 2024 12:38 am Are they breeding Polyura dehaani or all wild caught?
- Attachments
-
- Screenshot_20240320_131446_Gallery.jpg (571.5 KiB) Viewed 350 times
-
- Screenshot_20240320_131436_Gallery.jpg (661.74 KiB) Viewed 350 times
-
- Premium Member - 2024
- Posts: 886
- Joined: Mon May 23, 2022 2:30 pm
Re: Rarities in Charaxes
by Chuck » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:26 pm
And remain steadfast in the use of genus Amphion and place names like Stanleyville, New Hebrides, and Sears Point. I will not surrender.
-
- Premium Member - 2024
- Posts: 888
- Joined: Mon May 23, 2022 8:08 pm
Re: Rarities in Charaxes
by daveuk » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:11 pm
Here is a new photo of my male Polyura clitarchus upper & underside & an upperside male Polyura dehanii sultan from Sumatra.
- Attachments
-
- Screenshot_20240320_130341_Gallery.jpg (400.77 KiB) Viewed 356 times
-
- Screenshot_20240320_130352_Gallery.jpg (435.12 KiB) Viewed 356 times
-
- Screenshot_20240320_130411_Gallery.jpg (457.23 KiB) Viewed 356 times
-
- Premium Member - 2024
- Posts: 886
- Joined: Mon May 23, 2022 2:30 pm
Re: A beautiful fournierae pair
by Chuck » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:19 pm
I generally hand-deliver set specimens. I wouldn't mind mailing some within the country, but I'd be very concerned (these days) about set specimens arriving undamaged. I used to send large boxes of set specimens across country, but that's when packages were handled with care, and even then a couple would get free.
I presume the packaging is on the seller, so if an antenna gets busted on a $2000 specimen, that's the seller's loss. Ouch.
-
- Premium Member - 2024
- Posts: 886
- Joined: Mon May 23, 2022 2:30 pm
Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Chuck » Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:56 am
-
- Posts: 62
- Joined: Thu May 04, 2023 12:31 am
Re: Charaxes acraeoides pair
by Annarobertson1947 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:11 am
My Lydiae are from Cameroun and the Jolybouyeri male is Cote d'ivoire.
I think females are roughly 5 times price of males on average ,this obviously doesn't apply to jolybouyeri or acraeoides.
My next post is my slightly worn Jolybouyeri male ,
Now they are hard to find.
-
- Global Moderators
- Posts: 982
- Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:48 am
Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:59 am
VERY tough to find and my ONLY specimen !
Notable for the rather (plain) slate-grey appearance
of its forewings. A mid-late August species....
Robinson's Underwing (Catocala robinsonii)
-
- Global Moderators
- Posts: 982
- Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:48 am
Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:41 am
some of my Catocala captures which I ran short of
time to finish. A few here -- and a few there from
different outings.
This board is one of 3 with (recently) finished specimens.
All told I've worked up 34 over these last 4 weeks.
Will continue to post additional examples of other (different)
species which I have encountered !
-
- Global Moderators
- Posts: 982
- Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:48 am
Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:25 am
is occasionally encountered....
The Once-married Underwing (Catocala unijuga)
76mm. (wingtip to wingtip)
-
- Global Moderators
- Posts: 982
- Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:48 am
Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:18 am
"variable" species of the Midwest region.
It has several different forms....
Oldwife Underwing (Catocala palaeogama)
Typical (form)
A "variation" featuring more (white) on the forewings
along with blackish edging on the forewings which
continues along the trailing edge.
Oldwife Underwing (Catocala palaeogama)
form -- Annida >seldom encountered....
-
- Global Moderators
- Posts: 982
- Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:48 am
Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:45 am
The Penitent Underwing (Catocala piatrix)
-
- Global Moderators
- Posts: 982
- Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:48 am
Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:39 am
The Mother Underwing (Catocala parta)