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Re: Huh? Monarch butterfly range
by kevinkk » Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:42 pm
Monarchs, I don't think they occur there naturally, but I've never been. Perhaps it is just the comparison between the respective species, I had to look
up gilippus
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Re: Limenitis chrysalides
by kevinkk » Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:35 pm
As good as guess as any. There are moth larva that mimic bird droppings, but moths spin cocoons or burrow, so don't need the camo decor butterflieslivingplanet3 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:58 pmAs both the larvae and chrysalides are bird dropping mimics, perhaps this projection serves to give a more irregular shape, augmenting the effect?
do. Other butterfly pupae have projections and unusual shapes, as compared to the hidden moth pupaes.
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Re: Limenitis chrysalides
by livingplanet3 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:58 pm
As both the larvae and chrysalides are bird dropping mimics, perhaps this projection serves to give a more irregular shape, augmenting the effect?
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RIP Chuck Kondor
by chrisw » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:01 pm
I know many of you on this forum have had interactions With Chuck over the years. I would like to share some of my interactions with you.
I met Chuck by chance, in of all places Patagonia Arizona in July of 2014. This was my first collecting trip to Arizona with my 17 year old son.
We were staying at the Stage Stop Inn in downtown Patagonia. There were a couple of other collectors staying at this hotel as you could tell by the gear in the back of their trucks. One afternoon as I was putting things in the truck I noticed a business card under my windshield wiper. The card said "The Bug Guy" Chuck Kondor. He wrote on the card "How's the collecting going? I would like to visit. I am staying in room 201. I had heard of this Chuck Kondor guy, but never had dealings with him or met him. So I went up and knocked on the door. This large scruffy man opened the door and let me in. It was Chuck. He introduced me to his collecting partner, Greg Lewellen, and we visited for maybe 45 minutes or so. I found out that Chuck lived about an hour away from my house. He told me to call him when I got back to Wisconsin to set up a time that my son and I could come over and see his stuff.
About 2 weeks after we got back my son and I went for a visit. He welcomed us into his home and down to his "bug room" where he did his business and displayed many of the butterflies, moths & beetles he had for sale. My son & I were amazed at the amazing specimens he showed us. We also found his collecting stories fascinating. As we visited he he started to give us specimens to take home. He would ask "Do you have one of these?, and if course the answer was no. At the time I had a very meager collection of exotic specimens. By the time our visit was over Chuck had given us over 100 specimens to take home. When we got into the truck to go home I looked at my son and said "Did that just happen?"
That was the start of a wonderful friendship with Chuck. I would stop over to visit with him every couple of months just to listen to his stories about collecting all over the world. I would always come home with some new specimens for my collection. When Chuck found out that I grow flowers for a living and did landscaping through my business we began trading with each other. I would plant flowers in his yard and he would send me home with new specimens.
I now have an incredible collection and many fond memories just by that chance meeting in Patagonia. I will miss those visits.
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Huh? Monarch butterfly range
by Chuck » Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:46 pm
Huh? Everyone knows that Danaus plexippus breeds all the way up into Canada. Right?
The purpose of the map is to demonstrate the lack of competition for foodplant between gilippus and plexippus; so no harm done to the point being made. Still, this seems to be a significant oversight concerning something that I consider common knowledge.
Am I missing something?
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Ring light techniques?
by Chuck » Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:36 pm
This one is low-end, and you get what you pay for. It wasn't as shown on the box, and it isn't what's in the instructions. Some parts discussed in the manual have been very much made cheaper. The friction rings to hold arm position don't work well. Typical Amazon junk. But it was inexpensive (no, it was cheap. There is a difference.)
Anyway, it does throw out nice light. It does have an automatic shutter remote, which does sync with Bluetooth to my phone.
The idea then, I guess, is to get the tripod and light set up over a surface, and rotate specimens under it. That way the same heads-up angle is achieved with correct lighting.
Does anyone have any tricks or hints to using a ring light?
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Re: Rarities in Charaxes
by daveuk » Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:59 am
I have not seen a female.
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Limenitis chrysalides
by lamprima2 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:09 am
function of a flipper-like outgrowth on the dorsal side of
Limenitis lorquini chrysalis? It is present in other
Limenitis species as well.
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Re: Butterflies of Virginia, Clark & Clark 1951
by Chuck » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:04 pm
Yes, it's sad to now look back and see how so many species are extirpated from the lands they once occupied. I did find it interesting that in the early 20th century they reported (as you cited) species expanding in range, and apparently quickly.
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Re: Butterflies of Virginia, Clark & Clark 1951
by jhyatt » Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:03 pm
Cheeers,
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Re: Rarities in Charaxes
by adamcotton » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:45 pm
Adam.
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Butterflies of Virginia, Clark & Clark 1951
by Chuck » Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:53 pm
I pulled this book out to research something, and got caught reading it. I'd forgotten just how wonderfully chock full it is with information. It's not just about Virginia's butterflies- it goes into extensive observations by Mr. and Mrs. Clark and other researchers, correlations with weather patterns, and goes well into other states. Unlike most books on identification (from Golden Nature to Opler or Scott) this one goes into details...it's more like a very thorough field notes.
Though many hypotheses and taxonomic "facts" have been changed in the 70 years since publication, it is astonishing the number of questions raised, generally in the form of observations that don't quite form a conclusion, that remain unanswered today. And being a snapshot of the time, focused on the early 20th century, some observations now may be relevant, such as one taxon that had apparently been moving north- an early harbinger of climate change?
It's an astonishing read, from end to end, because it's not just a book about butterflies, it's a story, a true story. Clearly, the author didn't intend it to be that way, but with all the name dropping, period observations, and data it has become a story.
Unfortunately, I could not find a copy available online to purchase. But you may want to keep your eyes open.
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Re: Rarities in Charaxes
by Chuck » Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:44 pm
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Re: Rarities in Charaxes
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Re: Cartoon name for new species?
by eurytides » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:13 pm
Chuck: rex
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Re: Euparthenos nubilis -- the false underwing.
by Chuck » Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:29 pm
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Re: Rarities in Charaxes
by adamcotton » Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:53 am
Selection of taxa for the study was based on available taxonomic
information on the Charaxes species-group (Ackery et al.,
1995; Larsen, 2005; Williams, 2008). As ingroups, the exemplar
species were selected such that they represented all known ‘informal’
species-groups of Charaxes in Africa (a total of 125 specimens
of 83 species). We also included as ingroups all known species of
the two Charaxinae genera (Euxanthe and Palla) in Africa, three of
ca. 30 Oriental Charaxes and two exemplar species of Polyura.
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Re: Papilio elephenor
by Annarobertson1947 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:47 am
Oh I'm not worried, you can't take money with you, but on second thoughts , cant take butterflies eitherwollastoni wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:08 am There is a "Make an offer" button. Nobody will pay so much for elephenor, don't worry.
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Re: Euparthenos nubilis -- the false underwing.
by livingplanet3 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:04 am
Interesting - thanks; I've occasionally seen these moths over the years, and just assumed that they were a species of Catocala.Trehopr1 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:52 pm There is a species of moth which has evolved the cryptic
forewing coloration of underwing moths (Catocala) along
with the "flash coloration" aspect of the hindwings.
It is commonly known as the Locust Underwing (Euparthenos
nubilis) as its larval host is black locust AND it is the only
member of its genus in America north of Mexico...
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Euparthenos nubilis -- the false underwing.
by Trehopr1 » Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:52 pm
forewing coloration of underwing moths (Catocala) along
with the "flash coloration" aspect of the hindwings.
It is commonly known as the Locust Underwing (Euparthenos
nubilis) as its larval host is black locust AND it is the only
member of its genus in America north of Mexico.
Much like (true) underwings it is fond of fermenting fruit, fruit
baits, and mercury vapor lights. So, it can be an occasional or
even common visitor whenever/wherever someone seeks
catocala specimens.
The photo below features an adult (female) at the top
whilst a specimen of our Oldwife Underwing (C. paleogama)
is situated below.
It is easy to see how this species is often initially mistaken
for a true catocala by those first initiated with the method
of "sugaring for moths". It is also a wonderful example of
how evolutionary success in nature carries across a broad
spectrum of species and genera.