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Re: Checkerspot I.D.?
by boghaunter1 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:07 am
Thanks for the quick reply... I think you are correct... looks like a good match. I sent the same photos to another fellow who is writing a new book on SK butterflies; the last SK butterfly book was published in 1976 & is really outdated, & he came to the same conclusion. Checkerspots are extremely variable, even within a local population, & this one just has really enhanced white ventral markings. I think there are something like 24 named ssp. of E. anicia alone! I have a good series of these & this one female just stood out from all of the more "normal" looking females (like the one you showed). Thanks again!
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Re: Collecting in Vietnam
by nikiahloch » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:55 am
The airport in the US. I'm flying back from Vietnam to California. I live in the United States. "They" is the custom officials at the airport. I have an email from the agent that told me this info. So I have plenty of evidence of what they said. I did read the laws. I just decided to actually talk to someone about it.Chuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:59 pmWhich airport? Who is "they"?nikiahloch wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:18 pm
When your at the airport. If you have to go to customs. The person I talked to with USFW said that in most cases. They will just ask if they are dead or alive. This is a topic they deal with all the time, that's what they said to me.
Anything USFWS tells you is worthless. Get it in writing, and identified as to who wrote it. USFWS personnel once told me an import was OK, but apparently it wasn't, and the only thing that saved me was that I had kept copious notes- names, dates, times and exact words.
GO READ THE LAWS. This is so stupid we always go round-and-round here with "somebody said."
The other question is Vietnam wildlife export laws.
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Clothes moths infestation — Tineola Bisselliella and Monopis Crocicapitella
by MonaLisa » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:11 am
An entomologist saw my moth trap in September 2023 and confirmed I have both Tineola Bisselliella and Monopis Crocicapitella.
To give you the quickest overview possible I’ve truly tried everything to get rid of them.
Here’s some high-level background:
Here’s a deeper dive on almost everything I’ve tried to get rid of the moths over the past year and a half:
What I’d like to try now:
If anyone has any ideas I'm all ears. And I’d also really appreciate any resources or research you could send my way that might help point me in the right direction.
Many thanks!
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Re: Collecting in Vietnam
by Chuck » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:59 pm
Which airport? Who is "they"?nikiahloch wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:18 pm
When your at the airport. If you have to go to customs. The person I talked to with USFW said that in most cases. They will just ask if they are dead or alive. This is a topic they deal with all the time, that's what they said to me.
Anything USFWS tells you is worthless. Get it in writing, and identified as to who wrote it. USFWS personnel once told me an import was OK, but apparently it wasn't, and the only thing that saved me was that I had kept copious notes- names, dates, times and exact words.
GO READ THE LAWS. This is so stupid we always go round-and-round here with "somebody said."
The other question is Vietnam wildlife export laws.
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Re: Collecting in Vietnam
by adamcotton » Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:34 pm
Adam.
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Re: Collecting in Vietnam
by adamcotton » Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:31 pm
Adam.
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Re: Collecting in Vietnam
by nikiahloch » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:18 pm
When your at the airport. If you have to go to customs. The person I talked to with USFW said that in most cases. They will just ask if they are dead or alive. This is a topic they deal with all the time, that's what they said to me.Chuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:15 pmWho will let you walk through, and where? Is that after or without informing in/out customs?nikiahloch wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:35 am but most of the time there's not permits required and most will let you walk through as long as they are dead and you aren't bringing endangered or protected species
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Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:32 pm
Yep, they look fresh hatch. Not strays....
Don't know of anyone else who has encountered the species here in Illinois so, those may be important examples. I suppose if I ever get to the Natural History survey in Champaign I will look to see if there are any examples there.
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Re: Collecting in Vietnam
by Chuck » Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:15 pm
Who will let you walk through, and where? Is that after or without informing in/out customs?nikiahloch wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:35 am but most of the time there's not permits required and most will let you walk through as long as they are dead and you aren't bringing endangered or protected species
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Re: Agrias butterflies
by Annarobertson1947 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:45 am
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Re: A parade of Catocala moths
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Re: Anthocharis sara, stella, julia
by MikeH » Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:17 am
Or try reaching out to Norbert Kondla who is a local collector. You can find his info on inaturalist, he post a lot of specimens.
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Re: Checkerspot I.D.?
by MikeH » Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:10 am
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Checkerspot I.D.?
by boghaunter1 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:37 am
I've been going through/rearranging/updating my SK butterfly list, based on my collection, & have no clue as to this unidentified Checkerspot.... it is a female that was collected in Canada, SW Saskatchewan, in the Cypress Hills, (very close to the Alberta border), on 04 July 1991. It's ventral surface is so different than the other 2 ssp. I have - Euphydryas a. anicia & E. a. bernadetta (even though it looks like E. a. bernadetta on the dorsal side)....
Thanks in advance!! John K.
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Re: Collecting in Vietnam
by nikiahloch » Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:35 am
Very true. I did talk to the USFW and they said I may need a 3177 form. To have one just in case but most of the time there's not permits required and most will let you walk through as long as they are dead and you aren't bringing endangered or protected speciesChuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:46 amMost foreign organizations don't have or won't take the time to respond. They leave it to you and/or your local agent to arrange.nikiahloch wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:53 am
I sent an email to the Vietnam Department of Agriculture and still haven't heard back from them and that was 8 months ago, I leave the 30th of this month. I've contacted the US Department of Agriculture and even talked to someone and they said I don't need permits for importing dead insects in the US. I think at this point its a matter of hoping for the best.
USDA has nothing to do with dead insects, they only oversee live insects. Dead insects fall under USFWS.
One does not want to run afoul of Vietnamese officials. Getting caught on the way out with dead insects and no paperwork is going to be, at the least, expensive.
If one elects to "wing it", which I have as sometimes it's the only option, the best approach upon arriving in a foreign country is to find a local who knows the laws and officials, and can help get a permit. Even better is to make contact with a knowledgeable person in VN BEFORE going. Hoping to do it yourself in-country may not be effective, and will cost a fortune in bribe money.
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Re: Global travel collecting
by EdTomologist » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:30 pm
Collecting wise, the easiest way to get permits in SA is to have a university endorsement. So my suggestion is find where you want to go based on permit requirements, then find a research institute, station or park ranger station etc in the local you want. Then call them up or email them and ask if they can provide housing for researchers.
For most of the travel I do for collecting I usually find a research or biological station that accepts volunteers. These stations have housing for the volunteers usually and if they have space they will allow you to stay there - usually free of cost. Often times they also have a kitchen for food preparation.
In South America if you're eating rice and beans then your food cost is likely to be under 10$ a day. Flights to places like CR (where I just returned from) are 500-600$ round trip. So you could totally do a south american collecting trip for a month and do it for less than 1000$
The biggest challenge for you would be language barrier unless you speak fluent Spanish.
While I was in costa rica I was able to find short term jobs that paid/housed me and balance that out with free housing stays in a few national parks/conservation areas. In the end the trip cost came out to a net <1K for 5 months. You can see more about this trip on my IG @ed_tomologist and probably on my blog soon too!
Start planning now and next Fall you could be collecting in the tropics.
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Re: Research position in Costa Rica!
by EdTomologist » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:15 pm
For sure! Spent 50 days in Brazil, ca,e back to the US just long enough to spread them before I left for CR.
Currently I'm in the process of building some 100 drawers. Pictures of my finds can be seen on my instagram @ed_tomologist
I may make a proper thread in the future
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Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:21 pm
Very nice to hear that you have actually picked up a couple of specimens of C. briseis here. I don't know anyone else that has....
Could they have been strays ?
Were their colors too fresh to have been that so, maybe it is just rarely encountered ?
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Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:09 pm
The first and second relicta in your photograph are certainly quite unique in their own right. Some wonderful self-collected specimens....