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Re: Limenitis populi breeding
by wollastoni » Mon Jul 07, 2025 4:43 pm
Never had the luck to meet one. It is rare in France.
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Smerinthus ophthalmica 2nd generation in Oregon
by kevinkk » Mon Jul 07, 2025 4:40 pm
Found April 24, the larva finished eating, sleeved outside just on June 25 and pupated. Having made mistakes in the past,
I left the pupa in an emergengce cage. Good choice.
3 males are hanging from the ceiling in the cage, I had suspected that the moth had 2 generations here, because of the early nature of
this season's capture, and from larva I have found on the willow tree in late August.
There you go- something I haven't read anywhere, besides the fact that all my books call opthalmica ,ceryisi ,in any event, neither are
claimed to have more than 1 generation this far north.
Anyone that wants a bunch of ophthalmica ova can email me. I was planning on releasing these guys next year anyway.
kevinkoffel@gmail.com
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Re: Beautiful Ab. P. canadensis
by Chuck » Mon Jul 07, 2025 1:27 pm
ABERRANT COLOR PATTERNS IN THE PAPILIO AND AN UPDATE ON THE SEMI-MELANIC “FLETCHERI” VARIANTS, INCLUDING FEMALES (LEPIDOPTERA: PAPILIONIDAE) Mark Scriber
The following two were published in Holarctic Lepidoptera
1-43 David L. Perlman and Marc P. Perlman
OCTOBER 2019
AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE EFFECTS OF COLDSHOCK ON THE EASTERN TIGER
SWALLOWTAIL BUTTERFLY PTEROURUS (PAPILIO) GLAUCUS (C. LINNAEUS 1758)
(LEPIDOPTERA: PAPILIONIDAE)
44-69 David L. Perlman and Marc P. Perlman
A DISCOVERY OF THE HERITABILITY OF FEMALE MOSAIC COLOR-MORPHISM IN THE
EASTERN TIGER SWALLOWTAIL BUTTERFLY PTEROURUS (PAPILIO) GLAUCUS
(C. LINNAEUS 1758) (LEPIDOPTERA: PAPILIONIDAE)
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Re: Beautiful Ab. P. canadensis
by bobw » Mon Jul 07, 2025 11:29 am
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Re: Papilio antimachus - female or male
by adamcotton » Mon Jul 07, 2025 10:27 am
Ah, I was wondering. I have never seen a female except in photos.Cabintom wrote: Mon Jul 07, 2025 6:28 am I should note (and I thought I had) that the specimens above are from the ABRI collection.
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Re: Beautiful Ab. P. canadensis
by adamcotton » Mon Jul 07, 2025 10:25 am
No, I never tried to artificially produce aberrations by cold shock or any other method. I really wasn't interested in creating artificial aberrations.Paul K wrote: Mon Jul 07, 2025 1:43 am I suppose Adam must have tried that too as he went through thousands of specimens bread in his farm.
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Re: Bed bugs on photographs - how to deal
by adamcotton » Mon Jul 07, 2025 10:21 am
Note that if you freeze the photos in a sealed container (plastic box or bag) you must place the whole package in the room WITHOUT OPENING for 24 hours so the temperature will equalise. If you open the package straight out of the freezer the cold photos will become wet from condensation (water vapour in the air) and will likely be ruined.livingplanet3 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:17 pm Probably the best and safest option for killing bed bugs on small items, especially things that would be damaged or destroyed by heat, would be to seal them up in plastic bags and put them in a freezer for at least several days -
https://www.bedbugs.umn.edu/bed-bug-con ... s/freezing
I suspect that actually there will be no bed bugs on the photos, normally they will stay in or near the bed. There may possibly be other insects such as Psocids (book lice) but it is highly unlikely that bed bugs will be present on most of your mother's belongings. Sorry to hear of your loss.
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Re: Bed bugs on photographs - how to deal
by Symberry » Mon Jul 07, 2025 7:49 am
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Re: Papilio antimachus - female or male
by Cabintom » Mon Jul 07, 2025 6:28 am
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Re: Beautiful Ab. P. canadensis
by Paul K » Mon Jul 07, 2025 1:43 am
Usually if there is sadden temperature drop it does happen in rather larger areas so there should be more aberrant flying or perhaps it has to be just right time when the pupae is in just at right stage to trigger that fenomen. I’m curious if you will achieve any aberrant from your breading.
I suppose Adam must have tried that too as he went through thousands of specimens bread in his farm.
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Limenitis populi breeding
by wolf » Sun Jul 06, 2025 4:17 pm
Its the first time i've tried to rear this species and I currently have L1 larva which are a couple of days old. I suddenly noticed that a few larva started wandering around, even leaving the leaf where they already established a feeding spot with the characteristic sparing of the middle rib of the leaf. They seem to be just wandering around from leaf to leaf now and not settling down. Is this normal behavior? I'm worried that they wont start feeding again and just die. I got to just wait and see anyway i guess, but if anybody has experience with this species, some feedback would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Re: Beautiful Ab. P. canadensis
by mothman55 » Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:55 pm
As to the cause, I have read a few articles on cold shock of a newly formed chrysalis, and I have tried putting a few in the fridge for various periods to test the theory. Thus far none have shown any aberration, but then I only had about a dozen larvae. Right now I am rearing 45 Papilio canadensis larvae, will give it another try and see if any anomalies result.
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Re: Beautiful Ab. P. canadensis
by Trehopr1 » Fri Jul 04, 2025 3:34 pm
An AMAZING extreme find that few collectors ever make in the wilds. A treasure to be sure. You certainly seem to be in the right place (zone) where occasional sharp temperature fluctuations give rise to these extreme variations.
Rock-on fellow "man of the net".
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Re: Papilio antimachus - female or male
by Paul K » Fri Jul 04, 2025 12:56 pm
Thank you so much Trehopr1Trehopr1 wrote: Fri Jul 04, 2025 6:49 am To give credit where credit is due I just wanted to point out that it was our forum member Paul K who made an astute observation some 5 yrs ago (at least) regarding the underside white markings which males have and females do not.
In fact, Adam was the first person to compliment Paul K on such a keen observation which had never been mentioned; much less noticed by anyone as so few specimens are in private hands or even museum collections.
I admire the observation skills which Paul K has shown us time and again.
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Re: Papilio antimachus - female or male
by Trehopr1 » Fri Jul 04, 2025 6:49 am
In fact, Adam was the first person to compliment Paul K on such a keen observation which had never been mentioned; much less noticed by anyone as so few specimens are in private hands or even museum collections.
I admire the observation skills which Paul K has shown us time and again.
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Re: Papilio antimachus - female or male
by wollastoni » Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:36 pm
Thomas : you should write a book about your entomological adventures in Kivu one day !
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Re: Papilio antimachus - female or male
by Cabintom » Thu Jul 03, 2025 3:17 pm

Female on the bottom.
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Re: Beautiful Ab. P. canadensis
by wollastoni » Thu Jul 03, 2025 2:00 pm
A lifer !
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Re: Beautiful Ab. P. canadensis
by boghaunter1 » Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:15 pm
I just took this ab. P. canadensis off the spreading board today. Following are photos of the dorsal & ventral wing surfaces & a comparison to a "normal" fm. Canadian Tiger Swallowtail collected on the same date (30 May 2025) & location.
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Re: Tiger Swallowtails of NY: Finger Lakes, Part II
by Chuck » Wed Jul 02, 2025 5:42 pm
Now on to the MST (P. solstitius) season...
May and June in the Finger Lakes region of NY have been horrible. Storms, tornados, flooding, deaths. Over the past month, four freak days hit 90F (32C) which were terminated by thunderstorms. Four days were typical nice summer days. The rest were rainy, cold, and windy. What a garbage summer so far.
02 July 2025: 74F/ 23C, winds NW 8, 100% sun
Observed: zero
It's now the very beginning of MST (solstitius) season, typically. Being the first decent day, I checked the shoreline and side roads of Wayne Co. NY near Lake Ontario. Zero. iNat has observations in the Ithaca NY area, but not here. The preferred nectaring source, milkweed, is a good week from full bloom. I wonder...does the full bloom of milkweed with the emergence of MST coincide due to the same factors? Or does MST somehow "know", in real-time as if checking Weather Channel, it is too early to emerge and nectar, despite the calendar date?