When your at the airport. If you have to go to customs. The person I talked to with USFW said that in most cases. They will just ask if they are dead or alive. This is a topic they deal with all the time, that's what they said to me.Chuck wrote: βTue Apr 23, 2024 1:15 pmWho will let you walk through, and where? Is that after or without informing in/out customs?nikiahloch wrote: βTue Apr 23, 2024 1:35 am but most of the time there's not permits required and most will let you walk through as long as they are dead and you aren't bringing endangered or protected species
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Re: Collecting in Vietnam
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Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:32 pm
Yep, they look fresh hatch. Not strays....
Don't know of anyone else who has encountered the species here in Illinois so, those may be important examples. I suppose if I ever get to the Natural History survey in Champaign I will look to see if there are any examples there.
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Re: Collecting in Vietnam
by Chuck » Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:15 pm
Who will let you walk through, and where? Is that after or without informing in/out customs?nikiahloch wrote: βTue Apr 23, 2024 1:35 am but most of the time there's not permits required and most will let you walk through as long as they are dead and you aren't bringing endangered or protected species
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Re: Agrias butterflies
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Re: A parade of Catocala moths
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Re: Anthocharis sara, stella, julia
by MikeH » Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:17 am
Or try reaching out to Norbert Kondla who is a local collector. You can find his info on inaturalist, he post a lot of specimens.
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Re: Checkerspot I.D.?
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Checkerspot I.D.?
by boghaunter1 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:37 am
I've been going through/rearranging/updating my SK butterfly list, based on my collection, & have no clue as to this unidentified Checkerspot.... it is a female that was collected in Canada, SW Saskatchewan, in the Cypress Hills, (very close to the Alberta border), on 04 July 1991. It's ventral surface is so different than the other 2 ssp. I have - Euphydryas a. anicia & E. a. bernadetta (even though it looks like E. a. bernadetta on the dorsal side)....
Thanks in advance!! John K.
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Re: Collecting in Vietnam
by nikiahloch » Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:35 am
Very true. I did talk to the USFW and they said I may need a 3177 form. To have one just in case but most of the time there's not permits required and most will let you walk through as long as they are dead and you aren't bringing endangered or protected speciesChuck wrote: βMon Apr 22, 2024 11:46 amMost foreign organizations don't have or won't take the time to respond. They leave it to you and/or your local agent to arrange.nikiahloch wrote: βMon Apr 22, 2024 1:53 am
I sent an email to the Vietnam Department of Agriculture and still haven't heard back from them and that was 8 months ago, I leave the 30th of this month. I've contacted the US Department of Agriculture and even talked to someone and they said I don't need permits for importing dead insects in the US. I think at this point its a matter of hoping for the best.
USDA has nothing to do with dead insects, they only oversee live insects. Dead insects fall under USFWS.
One does not want to run afoul of Vietnamese officials. Getting caught on the way out with dead insects and no paperwork is going to be, at the least, expensive.
If one elects to "wing it", which I have as sometimes it's the only option, the best approach upon arriving in a foreign country is to find a local who knows the laws and officials, and can help get a permit. Even better is to make contact with a knowledgeable person in VN BEFORE going. Hoping to do it yourself in-country may not be effective, and will cost a fortune in bribe money.
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Re: Global travel collecting
by EdTomologist » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:30 pm
Collecting wise, the easiest way to get permits in SA is to have a university endorsement. So my suggestion is find where you want to go based on permit requirements, then find a research institute, station or park ranger station etc in the local you want. Then call them up or email them and ask if they can provide housing for researchers.
For most of the travel I do for collecting I usually find a research or biological station that accepts volunteers. These stations have housing for the volunteers usually and if they have space they will allow you to stay there - usually free of cost. Often times they also have a kitchen for food preparation.
In South America if you're eating rice and beans then your food cost is likely to be under 10$ a day. Flights to places like CR (where I just returned from) are 500-600$ round trip. So you could totally do a south american collecting trip for a month and do it for less than 1000$
The biggest challenge for you would be language barrier unless you speak fluent Spanish.
While I was in costa rica I was able to find short term jobs that paid/housed me and balance that out with free housing stays in a few national parks/conservation areas. In the end the trip cost came out to a net <1K for 5 months. You can see more about this trip on my IG @ed_tomologist and probably on my blog soon too!
Start planning now and next Fall you could be collecting in the tropics.
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Re: Research position in Costa Rica!
by EdTomologist » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:15 pm
For sure! Spent 50 days in Brazil, ca,e back to the US just long enough to spread them before I left for CR.
Currently I'm in the process of building some 100 drawers. Pictures of my finds can be seen on my instagram @ed_tomologist
I may make a proper thread in the future
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Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:21 pm
Very nice to hear that you have actually picked up a couple of specimens of C. briseis here. I don't know anyone else that has....
Could they have been strays ?
Were their colors too fresh to have been that so, maybe it is just rarely encountered ?
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Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:09 pm
The first and second relicta in your photograph are certainly quite unique in their own right. Some wonderful self-collected specimens....
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Re: Moths of North America (MONA) Catocala
by Trehopr1 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:55 pm
For all these reasons it made a lot of sense to me. While there may still be some OUTSTANDING individuals who buck this trend; most do not.
This is why any large time consuming projects like Mona fascicles need to be addressed earlier in life (not later) during our intellectual productivity window.
Otherwise, it may well remain a project very much unfinished.
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Re: Moths of North America (MONA) Catocala
by jhyatt » Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:13 pm
Nope, you gotta have the actual book to read Legion of Night.... which I heartily recommend one do. It's a very good read, but sadly the cost has about tripled since I bought my copy - it's now $30 used (from abebooks.com). Personally, I hate trying to read anything longer than a paragraph on a computer anyway!
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Re: A parade of Catocala moths
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Re: A parade of Catocala moths
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Re: Global travel collecting
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Re: Collecting in Vietnam
by Cassidinae » Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:08 pm
How it is in Vietnam I can't publish here The only positive thing about Vietnam (as far as insect exports are concerned) is that the law enforcement associated with it is not as radical as in, say, India, Ceylon, or Turkey.nikiahloch wrote: βMon Apr 22, 2024 1:44 am
I know export from Vietnam isn't banned. I purchase insects from private dealers all the time over there and they always show up