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livingplanet3 · by livingplanet3 » Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:08 pm

Very nice!

kevinkk · by kevinkk » Sun Oct 06, 2024 4:17 pm

It is superb work. Stylish as well. I like the Riker mounts without the 90 degree corners. I've never seen the underside of the species.
Sometime I'll get a picture of the last displays I made for Christmas gifts a couple years ago with atropos.

kevinkk · by kevinkk » Sun Oct 06, 2024 4:15 pm

Thanks Chuck, these things happen. Also, without being schooled in Latin I probably mispronounce names as well, I have spoke with some
other Insectnet members on the phone now and then, and had to stop and think when I heard some of the scientific names, I have my
own theories on phonetics.

By the by, all antiopa

are in the fridge, I fed them once. Not as difficult as I thought, although I did have to do each one by hand. Glassine is for more than just deadstock.

58chevy · by 58chevy » Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:47 pm

Great moth species and very innovative display. Thanks for the post.

Panacanthus · by Panacanthus » Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:40 am

For anyone not familiar with this species, when you shine an ordinary flashlight (or any bright, direct light) on the underside, it glows in a beautiful blue/violet!

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Panacanthus · by Panacanthus » Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:36 am

This is a recently completed "wall display" featuring 3 large males of Thysania agrippina. The average wingspan of these specimens is 274mm, which is what I consider their "true" wingspan, calculated by measuring forewing lengths and adding width of thorax. Thysania agrippina is considered to have the largest wingspan of all Lepidoptera. The center specimen would be considered the typical, most common color form. The top specimen is a dark form, and the bottom specimen is a normal example showing the underside.

The design of this display was based on the nameplate title, which was decided upon first. I wanted a look which might remind me of the Amazon, and the trunk of a rainforest tree upon which one of these moths may rest. The border was created by cutting strips of natural 1 inch thick cork bark and beveling the inside edges. Moss was then added to the bark. The center panel is "floating" and does not actually touch the cork bark.

For the framing I use Optium Museum Acrylic, which is anti-static, anti-reflective, scratch resistant, and blocks 99% of U.V. light.

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Trehopr1 · by Trehopr1 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:44 pm

Hello benihikage92,

That is a stunning and beautifully presented selection of Curculionidae !

Also, just spaced enough to allow a clear view of each individual species and it's possible variation. All scientific data in place.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

VERY well done indeed !

benihikage92 · by benihikage92 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:15 am

Vernon

Having said what I wanted to say, we still need to solve our problem of what to do with our collection after we are gone. I hear many people here are having a hard time finding places to house their collections after their death. Major museums don't have funds to make storage places for more insect collections. Passing on our collections to the next-generation enthusiasts would be one of the ways to solve this problem. Here, things are easier if the specimens have aesthetic values as well.

Kuni

wollastoni · by wollastoni » Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:10 am

benihikage92 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:47 pm As Christof said, I mount wasps upside down. You can put all antennae, legs, and wings of a wasp on one plane surface. All you need is a piece of styrofoam with a shallow groove.

1st picture
Vespa dybowskii Worker

2nd picture
Vespa mandarinia Queen
Vespa analis Queen
Vespa dybowskii Queens and Workers
Vespa crabro Worker

Very smart ! And great result!
Thank you for the tip ! I will try it on my Pepsis.

benihikage92 · by benihikage92 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:43 am

Vernon

Thank you for your advice. However, the environments we are in are very different. As a result, approaches to this hobby are different. Living in central Tokyo, my collection will never grow to 1 million. I haven't counted how many specimens I have, but it's less than thirty thousand. I collect much less than you do. I'm not as lucky as you are.

Also, as Trehopr1 put it nicely, there are aesthetic collectors. I'm also one of them. I spend more time per specimen.

By the way, I am probably as old as you are. I'm not new to this hobby. I have been collecting insects since I was 5 or 6 years old. I'm sure my collection size won't double before I breathe my last.

Kuni

Doliops, Pachyrrhynchus, and other weevils
My beetle specimens with legs sticking out in all directions!

lamprima2 · by lamprima2 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:51 am

Chuck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 7:59 pm My personal observations is that the adult moths dig their way out. I could understand a pupa wiggling itself to the surface ACCIDENTALLY in loose surroundings, but I know of none that work their way to the earth's surface.

Vernon, I won't say you're wrong about peer review, but my peers are killing me on our paper.

Chuck,
Thank you for your input

Trehopr1 · by Trehopr1 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:52 am

Hello Vernon,

I think it can be said here that those of us who maintain our own collections have a great passion for the science and enjoy a certain level of field work. Yet, we are also mere hobbyists with differing levels of interest and time to give to this passion.

Some of us are aesthetic collectors (myself included). We very much appreciate the varied beauty found in insects. Whether we focus on just one order of insects or enjoy the broad palette of orders; we try to make them look as good or lifelike as we can present them.

I suppose aesthetic collectors are in a way insect "taxidermists". We are not necessarily interested in how many we can stuff in a drawer, or how extensive we can make our collections. We just appreciate choice specimens and their optimal presentation along with (of course) accurate data to lend them scientific importance.

It is what makes us happy in our hobby and although someday it may be out of our hands as to how our collections are treated; at least we know we enjoyed it OUR way and on another "level" of appreciation.

lamprima2 · by lamprima2 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:25 am

Dear vabrou,
I asked Paul K if his opinion was based on personal observation or a scientific publication. Note that personal observation or communication with someone else is perfectly OK with me as an amateur insect enthusiast.
By "peer-reviewed articles," I meant articles that have been reviewed by the scholar's peers to determine whether they are high-quality. I am a Ph.D. in genetics and embryology and have authored numerous publications, including papers in leading scientific journals. From my experience, peer review doesn't necessarily guarantee the high value of an article. Moreover, in some instances, high-quality manuscripts are rejected. However, most of the time, colleague criticism helps improve the quality of the article. I can't see an alternative to this system. Also, I am unsure what this discussion on the peer review process has to do with the topic of my post.

58chevy · by 58chevy » Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:41 pm

I have 9 field-caught but fresh papered Phoebis sennae specimens in excellent condition for anybody who wants them. First person to send me a PM gets them. USA only.

vabrou · by vabrou » Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:35 pm

benihikage92

three more examples

Vernon

vabrou · by vabrou » Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:20 pm

benihikage92

I have noted over the 3 decades of the websites digital age that the persons that want to show others what a spiffy job they do in pinning out their specimens with the legs spread wide are most often new to collecting insects. I have only one question for you.

1. What are you going to do when your collection reaches 1 million to 2 million specimens in size?

I have collected here at my home 124 million insect specimens in a single day (24-hours) using hundreds of automatic capture insect traps. I cannot process but a tiny percentage of this massive quantity. So I pick and chose at most a few hundred daily, sometimes on rare occasions pinning and labeling +/- 700-800 insects per day. But these have to be dried for several days and I accelerate that in large batch amounts using a specially designed low temperature drying oven. I collect here every day of every year, and have done so for 55 consecutive years. Specimens are automatically collected but I pick up the results every day and process them every day.

The answer is you will need a warehouse to house them all with legs spread widely, or you will need to hire help to process them all, and even more help to keep this huge amount of storage drawers fumigated. And all of this will require even more costly temperature and humidity controls.

I offer you another opinion (an alternative method) about these matters. You eventually will find out the museums and university collections of present day house hundreds of millions of specimens worldwide. And some of these institutions will not accept any insect specimens with legs sticking out in all directions on pinned insects. Beetle collectors do these same detrimental things. I can also tell you that in 10-20 years the outstretched legs on the specimens in your photos will not be there then. They will have broken off long past. Once you sell or donate your collection, you no longer will have any say-so about it. Others will not pussyfoot around playing with going to extremes to prevent breakage on specimens they have no personal interest in, as specimens that you store with larger spaces between specimens in time will eventually be bunched up to shove more specimens into the same available storage areas.

Consider, the method I have used and illustrated for my collected hymenoptera in my 6 images provided here and in the next post. These six images are just handy examples of temporary storage boxes I use to transfer or ship pinned dried insects. Consider tucking all 6 legs against the thorax/abdomen areas.

Chuck · by Chuck » Fri Oct 04, 2024 7:59 pm

My personal observations is that the adult moths dig their way out. I could understand a pupa wiggling itself to the surface ACCIDENTALLY in loose surroundings, but I know of none that work their way to the earth's surface.

Vernon, I won't say you're wrong about peer review, but my peers are killing me on our paper.

Chuck · by Chuck » Fri Oct 04, 2024 7:52 pm

"The MacArthur Fellowship is an $800,000, "no strings attached" grant awarded to individuals"

Dayum. I'd need a new, red Ferrari to study evolutionary science in insects.

58chevy · by 58chevy » Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:44 pm

https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/joe- ... &utm_term=

benihikage92 · by benihikage92 » Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:47 pm

As Christof said, I mount wasps upside down. You can put all antennae, legs, and wings of a wasp on one plane surface. All you need is a piece of styrofoam with a shallow groove.

1st picture
Vespa dybowskii Worker

2nd picture
Vespa mandarinia Queen
Vespa analis Queen
Vespa dybowskii Queens and Workers
Vespa crabro Worker

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