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Questionable Question Marks
by Nymphalis antiopa » Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:23 am
Wisconsin this year had an exceedingly warm early spring. The usual migrating Vanessid butterflies showed up around 2-4 weeks early in unusually large amounts. Colias and Papilio glaucus also showed up unseasonably early.
Question Marks in Wisconsin are weird. Instead of overwintering in their fall form which they do in much of the United States, they migrate up to the southeast and west in their summer form during May (with black hindwings) and spread northward. These adults then die off and we see the real summer form emerging in late June. We then see the crisp, fall forms in August and September before disappearing. They rarely show up after early October (although they have been seen as late as November.) None of this makes sense to me. What brood are these supposedly summer forms migrating up in May? Where are they flying from? I see overwintered, fall forms in Illinois and Missouri. But not Wisconsin.
This year has been even weirder with summer forms showing up in pristine condition in early April. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Re: Thoughts on NABA?
by Nymphalis antiopa » Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:54 am
I remember seeing a Karner Blue habitat being torn to pieces by ATV routes cutting right through. I remember finding many dead Limenitis carcasses on the roads. They don't complain about that as much as they do with collecting.
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Re: resource limit reached
by adamcotton » Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:01 pm
Adam.
PS. Most of the time Insectnet loads normally, but every so often this error recurs.
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Re: resource limit reached
by wollastoni » Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:06 pm
It seems to affect the whole insectnet website, but we haven’t found the reason behind with Inmotion team…
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Re: resource limit reached
by livingplanet3 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:44 pm
I get the message quite often.kevinkk wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:34 pm Just curious.
Does anyone else get a message like this " resource limit reached" this happens from time to time, and the page simply won't load ?
Conjecture is welcome, but our internet connection is a good one with faster than typical speed, and the computer I use is 6 months old.
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Re: Found in new house inspection!
by kevinkk » Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:39 pm
Before you move in, try some bug bombs, or traps, professional pest control is dubious.
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resource limit reached
by kevinkk » Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:34 pm
Does anyone else get a message like this " resource limit reached" this happens from time to time, and the page simply won't load ?
Conjecture is welcome, but our internet connection is a good one with faster than typical speed, and the computer I use is 6 months old.
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Re: Found in new house inspection!
by livingplanet3 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:13 pm
It appears to be a nymph of either the Smoky Brown Cockroach -Cabinfever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:07 pm We found this roach during our new house pre purchase inspection. Very concerned it’s a roach that can be hard to remove once inside. What type?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smokybrown_cockroach
or the American Cockroach -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cockroach
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Found in new house inspection!
by Cabinfever » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:07 pm
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Re: Thoughts on NABA?
by eurytides » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:29 am
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Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:16 am
(Catocala lacrymosa) captures featuring that
"marbled" appearance which only shows itself
periodically here and there. Quite noticeable
against the general torrent of "typical" ones
that I've encountered.
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Re: A parade of Catocala moths
by Trehopr1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:57 am
large (80-90mm) species with a yellow/orange
appearance to its hindwings. In my general area
it remains an infrequent visitor to light or bait.
Been a few years since I've encountered one....
The similarly sized yet, much more common
Catocala neogama is easily confused with this one.
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Re: Thoughts on NABA?
by kevinkk » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:24 pm
Next time use a better acronym.
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Re: Thoughts on NABA?
by adamcotton » Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:53 pm
Recently a colleague and I were asked to review a paper on butterflies of a SE Asian country based solely on photographic records of living specimens. Particularly for Lycaenidae and Hesperiidae but also in some other groups (such as Satyrinae) a single photo is often not diagnostic (e.g. both upperside and underside need to be seen), and many specimens could not be accurately identified to individual species even from photos where both sides were at least partially visible. Some species cannot be identified beyond 'species-group' from photos at all, even from superb photos of pinned specimens. That is why scientific collections are invaluable, and private collections also contain specimen data which may be important in future.
Adam.
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Re: Using absolutes: always, never
by adamcotton » Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:25 pm
Adam.
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Re: Using absolutes: always, never
by Chuck » Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:53 pm
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Re: Thoughts on NABA?
by Chuck » Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:44 pm
"we are shifting the paradigm from collectors with nets, capturing and killing butterflies, to enthusiasts with cameras and binoculars, capturing beautiful images of live butterflies in nature." That's nice. We need more photos of misidentified Viceroys.
"NABA has amassed the largest database of butterfly sightings and population abundances in the world." Rubbish, pure rubbish.
"NABA envisions a future where wild butterflies thrive in healthy habitats, none are threatened or endangered, and all people can enjoy observing them in nature." Impossible. Many taxa are threatened and endangered from elements other than man. Thousands of butterfly taxa have gone extinct before man, some will after. It is impossible to have "all people" observe them in nature.
In order to save butterfly taxa we have to know them. That requires dissection, grinding up for DNA, and collections. NABA's trumpet is based on the hard work of those the seek to put out of operation.
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Re: I can't find my #@%*& type specimens!
by Chuck » Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:33 pm
I broke down and spent a weekend doing that last year. What a nightmare. I'd been sticking specimens wherever they fit physically, and I had taxa spread all over in the wrong places. If you want to talk about "can't find" god I had it. But I have the same problems w/ institutional collections- a taxa spread between the primary collection, a donated personally collection, pro tem, and "wherever" so it's not just me.
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Re: I can't find my #@%*& type specimens!
by kevinkk » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:09 pm
What I typically do from time to time, is rearrange things, and put them in "better" places. That's when they go missing.
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Re: I can't find my #@%*& type specimens!
by Chuck » Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:49 pm
This all started actually a couple days ago when I couldn't find them.
Yesterday I made a concerted effort to find them. I went through all my NA Papilio drawers (minus the machaon-types) looking. Four times. Studied each drawer. Nothing.
As you probably observed, I was frustrated.
I've learned when something doesn't make sense, and you can't make sense of it, walk away and give it time. Last year I was re-mating two mechanical assemblies and suddenly they wouldn't go together. I pushed, I tried again, I tried and tried. I used a rubber mallet- no go. I pulled out the steel hammer and thought- wait, I'd better put this down. The next day they inexplicably slid together.
And so today. I pulled out suspect drawer #1 and looked again. No go based on chronological date. I was was looking at unique morphological characteristics when I noticed one specimen had an extra pink label. Ah hah. There must be another one- and sure there was. As it turns out, in writing the description paper I had recorded the wrong day one one specimen, and was exactly one year off on the other! There was no error in my collating- it was the human error in transcribing label to keyboard.
So I'm good. Now just have to take new photos (after all that.)