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Trehopr1 · by Trehopr1 » Wed May 15, 2024 9:51 pm

That is a picture perfect example in my humble opinion.
You should be very proud of its exceptional condition.
Well done....

Trehopr1 · by Trehopr1 » Wed May 15, 2024 7:46 pm

If it wasn't held so dang far away (for most of us on the Eastern seaboard) and the traveling expense was not what it is for airfare and lodging (without specimens cost) then I would be there in a heartbeat.

kevinkk · by kevinkk » Wed May 15, 2024 4:00 pm

Always nice. X- pupa, or earlier.
Those damages happen to all of us. Raise them for weeks or longer, wait, then hope you can dispatch them, spread and get it into a case without
breaking something off. More than once I went from flawless to arrgh.
I just realized, I have a new set of calipers. Perhaps I'll try them on the male rutulus I have on the board, an X-ova which I let hatch indoors a weeks ago.

wollastoni · by wollastoni » Wed May 15, 2024 1:50 pm

Would be great to have some pictures of the fair. If anyone here attends it.

lamprima2 · by lamprima2 » Wed May 15, 2024 6:01 am

Unfortunately, I've damaged the right forewing - Murphy's law.
The wingspan is exactly 100 mm in the dried specimen.

: Papilio rutulus. 100 mm. IN.jpg (753.5 KiB) Viewed 55 times

jellybean · by jellybean » Wed May 15, 2024 5:05 am

This weekend. Come to see, sell, buy, & exchange bugs. https://nhm.org/calendar/bug-fair-2024

biscuit153 · by biscuit153 » Tue May 14, 2024 12:47 am

Forgive for the plug, but the link below is to an excellent podcast that I follow. The episode linked I think may be particularly relevant to the present discussion. These can be challenging cases for sufferer and diagnostician alike

https://arthro-pod.blogspot.com/2024/01 ... tosis.html

adamcotton · by adamcotton » Mon May 13, 2024 5:16 pm

I haven't seen it for at least a week or more. Perhaps it occurs at certain times of day or in certain areas where the internet is slower?

Adam.

livingplanet3 · by livingplanet3 » Mon May 13, 2024 1:44 pm

I have seen the message a few times in the past week.

wollastoni · by wollastoni » Mon May 13, 2024 1:02 pm

I have the feeling we don't face that issue since I've upgraded the forum version (on May 5th).
Did anyone face this Resource Limit error last week ?

58chevy · by 58chevy » Sat May 11, 2024 8:17 pm

The dark Florida specimens look very similar to E. philolaus, a Mexican species that strays into the Lower Rio Grande Valley of TX.

adamcotton · by adamcotton » Sat May 11, 2024 4:46 pm

daveuk wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 12:56 pm I am still not completely sure how these pink forms are produced.

I suspect that they retain a dye added to the larval foodplant. Presumably these have never been seen in wild specimens.

Adam.

58chevy · by 58chevy » Sat May 11, 2024 3:50 pm

The pink one is amazing! I never knew that form existed.

daveuk · by daveuk » Sat May 11, 2024 12:56 pm

It has always been a strange phenomenon in my part of the U.K. that the spring brood of this butterfly which flies here in April & May is considerably less frequent that the summer brood flying from July onwards. The summer brood is probably the commonest late summer butterfly here but I only usually see a handful of the spring brood each year. Photos attached of a self caught pair of spring & summer broods. The spring brood is smaller & less heavily marked than the summer one here. Also a photo of a possible gynandramorph & a pink female example from my collection. I am still not completely sure how these pink forms are produced.

adamcotton · by adamcotton » Sat May 11, 2024 12:52 pm

58chevy wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:06 pm I can't help but notice the morphological similarity between the Cabbage White and Aphrissa statira, which is a member of the Sulphur family and has a more southerly range in the USA (native to S. Texas & S. Florida). Does anybody know how closely (or distantly) the 2 species are related?

They are in different subfamilies - Aphrissa statira belongs to subfamily Coliadinae, whereas Pieris rapae of course belongs in Pierinae, so they are not very closely related.

Adam.

Annarobertson1947 · by Annarobertson1947 » Sat May 11, 2024 5:39 am

adamcotton wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 8:04 am
Trehopr1 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 3:39 am Another favorite are nasturtium leaves.
When I was a boy in the UK I only ever found P. brassicae on Nasturtium. Maybe P. rapae only occasionally feeds on that plant, or I missed its less obvious larvae.

Adam.

An update to this post, in Australia its common on nasturtium, they lay on this as a preference in my garden in southern Australia

eurytides · by eurytides » Fri May 10, 2024 11:46 pm

Paul K wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 4:53 pm Just wondering if we will see some here in southern Ontario this summer. I have never seen one yet.

Last record was a male seen and photographed at Long Point in 2016. There’s also a 2012 record from Point Pelee. We see one in ON every few years.

Nymphalis antiopa · by Nymphalis antiopa » Fri May 10, 2024 7:06 pm

livingplanet3 wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:57 pm The atalanta I'm seeing here in TX are nearly all in fine condition - no flight wear at all; definitely from recent, local emergence. Same with the V. cardui, V. virginiensis and P. interrogationis.

Same here in Wisconsin. All those species are typically very battered in April and May here.

Chuck · by Chuck » Fri May 10, 2024 6:53 pm

07 May 2024: back at it, albeit in KY. More than a dozen Tigers spotted, couldn't net a single one- all flying somewhere fast and erratic. I couldn't get to a couple of my favored sites because of flooding.

Chuck · by Chuck » Fri May 10, 2024 6:50 pm

I saw Papilio troilus, and undetermined thing like P tharos, and blues puddling, but in KY last week no marcellus puddling. In fact, I've never seen marcellus puddle. Interesting. I only brought two specimens back, I believe a pair, and the difference is interesting, one that is definitely female is larger, with apexed wings while the smaller has more rounded FW tips.

They're interesting in flight because they appear grey-ish white, rather nondescript. They're surprisingly tough to spot on the white flowers.

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