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Topic: Global travel collecting | Author: Chuck | Replies: 18 | Views: 207
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Re: Agrias butterflies

by mothman27 » Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:32 pm

Chuck wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:45 pm Congratulations on finishing school! It's quite a bit of work and time.

My suggestion if I may- don't buy commercially, use that money to go there. You're young enough to learn to handle the hardships and maximize collecting efforts. Why buy one when you can catch ten?
It certainly would be awesome to collect some myself but I'm honestly not sure all that would entail. A few questions someone here may be able to answer:
1. I'm sure there are certain South American countries more friendly to collecting (not Brazil, lol), what are the best options?
2. How does one go about finding a collecting spot in a foreign country and a local connection?
3. What kind of import/export permits/paperwork would a collecting trip require. Do you ship your specimens back or carry them with you?
4. Is it better to travel with collecting equipment, or ship it there, or buy/make it there? I'm thinking of bait traps, lights and nets.
5. How safe would it be to embark on such a trip as a single individual?
6. For something like Agrias, how likely is it that you would even collect any while there?
The idea of collecting in Aouth America sounds great but obviously, I have endless logistical questions.
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Topic: Preserving large Lepidoptera pupae | Author: lamprima2 | Replies: 9 | Views: 896
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Re: Preserving large Lepidoptera pupae

by jhyatt » Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:17 pm

I would think that freeze-drying would be the best method to preserve large pupae, but of course you'd have to have the proper equipment to do it...
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Topic: Preserving large Lepidoptera pupae | Author: lamprima2 | Replies: 9 | Views: 896
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Re: Preserving large Lepidoptera pupae

by Trehopr1 » Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:16 am

Hello lamprima2,

Very sorry to hear that your experiment was disastrous. I was afraid that using any man-made solvents would severely dry out or damage the test subject.

This is why I suggested using 90% rubbing alcohol. At the museum where I worked for 8 years we stored many things in 70% alcohol but, we also stored other things in 90% to fix the tissues without necessarily drying them out.

I've never known 70% or 90% rubbing alcohol to damage anything. Yes, initially when you drop something in it there is an exchange of bodily fluids and rubbing alcohol and this is where you will see the rubbing alcohol change color. However, once you dump out the bad alcohol which has become discolored you refill it and check it again in a little while to see that it still remains clear.

Wishing you better luck next time if you have another test subject.
Topic: Preserving large Lepidoptera pupae | Author: lamprima2 | Replies: 9 | Views: 896
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Re: Preserving large Lepidoptera pupae

by lamprima2 » Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:26 am

Update on large pupae processing:
Manduca sexta pupae were euthanized by freezing,
and stored in 80% ethanol for two months. The result was disastrous: upon drying, the pupae became covered with whitish flakes. It looks like the outer layer of the pupa's cuticle (epicuticle?) is peeled off. Next time I will simply pin the pupa and let it dry in the presence of CaCl2 or bury it in silica-gel, rather than exposing it to organic solvents.
Topic: First butterfly of 2024 | Author: Paul K | Replies: 7 | Views: 264
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First butterfly of 2024

by Paul K » Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:32 am

Today April 7 I saw first P.rapae here in South/west Toronto. The spring is officially here and it is about two weeks earlier as we had very mild winter this year.
Topic: Anthocharis sara, stella, julia | Author: Paul K | Replies: 5 | Views: 206
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Re: Anthocharis sara, stella, julia

by Paul K » Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:42 pm

Papilio_indra wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:57 pm This is an excellent treatment of Anthocharis by Todd Stout: https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/view ... sectamundi
It is indeed, thank you so much for the link
Topic: Anthocharis sara, stella, julia | Author: Paul K | Replies: 5 | Views: 206
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Re: Anthocharis sara, stella, julia

by Papilio_indra » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:57 pm

This is an excellent treatment of Anthocharis by Todd Stout: https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/view ... sectamundi
Topic: Global travel collecting | Author: Chuck | Replies: 18 | Views: 207
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by Chuck » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:45 pm

Congratulations on finishing school! It's quite a bit of work and time.

My suggestion if I may- don't buy commercially, use that money to go there. You're young enough to learn to handle the hardships and maximize collecting efforts. Why buy one when you can catch ten?
Topic: Anthocharis sara, stella, julia | Author: Paul K | Replies: 5 | Views: 206
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Re: Anthocharis sara, stella, julia

by Chuck » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:42 pm

Paul-

iNaturalist tries to stay on top of systematics, but sometimes there can be a delay.

sara https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?taxon_id=59124

stella https://www.inaturalist.org/observation ... _id=900256

all Anthocheris julia https://www.inaturalist.org/observation ... _id=900255
Topic: Anthocharis sara, stella, julia | Author: Paul K | Replies: 5 | Views: 206
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Re: Anthocharis sara, stella, julia

by Trehopr1 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:50 pm

Hi Paul,

Maybe contact Mikeh.
He seems to travel all over that region.
Probably one of the most knowledgeable Western collectors regarding where certain butterflies can be found.

Evra might know as well but, he seems to collect the more southerly portions of the West in much drier habitats. He is certainly very knowledgeable in that regard.
Topic: Anthocharis sara, stella, julia | Author: Paul K | Replies: 5 | Views: 206
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Anthocharis sara, stella, julia

by Paul K » Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:57 pm

Does anyone know current systematic of this species?
Also if anyone knows good locality to collect it around eastern slope of Rocky Mountains south of Calgary.
As far as my research there should be A.stella inhabit some areas.
Topic: Huh? Monarch butterfly range | Author: Chuck | Replies: 8 | Views: 345
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Re: Huh? Monarch butterfly range

by Paul K » Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:42 pm

I have seen D.plexippus in Costa Rica and Dominican Republic. It does not occur in Thailand or Laos, at least not yet, most of subspecies other than N.American nominate don’t migrate.
Topic: Agrias butterflies | Author: wollastoni | Replies: 142 | Views: 10380
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Re: Agrias butterflies

by Annarobertson1947 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:24 am

Trehopr1 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:13 am Hello Tim !
Congratulations are in order for finishing up your schooling. 🙏🎉☺️

Very nice to see you once again posting some of your acquisitions. Have missed your presence here on the forum but, hope to see more of you here now as youthful collectors help to invigorate our forum !

A. narcissus is certainly a grand start in the genus and females of just about anything are just "icing on the cake" for one's collection.

Wish you well in your endeavors and do stay in touch with us here !
Cake needs icing : :D
Topic: Agrias butterflies | Author: wollastoni | Replies: 142 | Views: 10380
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Re: Agrias butterflies

by Trehopr1 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:13 am

Hello Tim !
Congratulations are in order for finishing up your schooling. 🙏🎉☺️

Very nice to see you once again posting some of your acquisitions. Have missed your presence here on the forum but, hope to see more of you here now as youthful collectors help to invigorate our forum !

A. narcissus is certainly a grand start in the genus and females of just about anything are just "icing on the cake" for one's collection.

Wish you well in your endeavors and do stay in touch with us here !
Topic: Agrias butterflies | Author: wollastoni | Replies: 142 | Views: 10380
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Re: Agrias butterflies

by mothman27 » Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:27 pm

I'm entering a new phase in my collecting now that I am working full-time and out of school (YAY!). Currently, I'm expanding my South American Nymphalidae. I finally snagged my favorite species of butterfly of all time (Agrias narcissus) for a reasonable price. I also have some other nice Agrias on the way.

Agrias pericles aurantica f. trajanus - Female - Brazil
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Agrias narcissus narcissus - Male - Brazil
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~~Tim
Topic: Sphingid females and pheromones | Author: kevinkk | Replies: 2 | Views: 130
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Re: Sphingid females and pheromones

by evra » Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:43 pm

Yes they will come to her assuming she calls and assuming there are males flying. Exactly what the pheromone is chemically is probably unknown and the exact flight time of the males might vary though. I've found that the males of the western Smerinthus fly really late, like 1-3 AM. Good luck. I would recommend trying along a river with lots of willows/aspens.
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Re: Juvisy Insect Fair 2024

by FranKz » Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:31 pm

Pierre wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:19 pm Confirmed by Patrick Arnaud, organizator of this fair.
Thank you very much for the information Pierre.
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Sphingid females and pheromones

by kevinkk » Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:25 pm

My copy of The Hawk Moths of North America doesn't have much information on using virgin females to attract males, has anyone
tried it with Smerinthus? I have a female cerisyi and hope to attract some local males with her. I have the pupa outdoors in a screen
box, protected from the rain so she has the best chance of emerging when the local males do. I have found the larva 2 years in a row on my Salix babylonica, and assume there is a breeding population here, although I've never found an adult when I ran my UV light at home.
This is a first for me, we don't get Saturniidae here at the beach, and trying to synchronize with wild populations that are hours away
is something I have never bothered to try.
Topic: Huh? Monarch butterfly range | Author: Chuck | Replies: 8 | Views: 345
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Re: Huh? Monarch butterfly range

by Chuck » Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:58 pm

Danaus plexippus is all over the place.

I have captures from several locations in Solomon Islands.

University of Hawai'i on Oahu has a light morph, and on Maui can be found a dark morph.
Topic: Agrias butterflies | Author: wollastoni | Replies: 142 | Views: 10380
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Re: Agrias butterflies

by wollastoni » Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:01 am

Females are rarer and more expensive.