I was looking at Agrias, and some more expensive Saturniidae (Copiopteryx, Eudaemonia/Eustera, Loxolomia, Etc.). I typically search the ebay sold or completed listing looking for price checks but like you mentioned, it only goes back a few months.

adamcotton wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2025 9:58 am

nilzsz wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:32 pm For scale this guy was the size of a tic tac or three.

What does this mean? I have no idea what a 'tic tac' is.

Adam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tic_Tac

These are globally popular, often sold on the sales counter of 7 Eleven and similar small stores. In some regions- like Thailand- they are replaced by locally-made similar products (bootlegged). Check your local 7 Eleven (yes people, Thailand is loaded with 7 Eleven, they are more common in Thailand than in USA.)

kevinkk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:48 pm there is a problem with snakehead fish, actual snakes and certain specific mammals that are much more of a danger to America than a few pet beetles. Click bait for activists, and eye roll for common sense.

The reptile and aquarium trades have long got a pass for imports, while live insects have been blanket-banned or tightly controlled. The reason is that the reptile trade is 1000x that of insects and the aquarium industry is 1,000,000x that of insects.

We now know- via experience- that some "pet" reptile and fish species have become serious environmental problems. In reaction, USFWS has banned or restricted further imports (but the domestic breeding continues.) However, when USFWS tried to more-or-less throttle the entire exotic fish importation, pushback from the people (really, the monied industry) was able to get that largely pushed back. It's all about who has the money.

Given that live insect importation is effectively banned, the only option hobbyists have is to do it illegally, meaning imports are totally unmonitored. Ultimately, this is counterproductive. If it were legal, people would go that route, and government could monitor, restrict, and evaluate what's being imported. But there are too many jobs now dependent on outright bans of stuff.

Jshuey wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 5:50 pm The agents are always on the look out for invasive species that could damage our economy.Just like you can't ID every insect you see, neither can they.

I get it, your rights to rear potential damaging species certainly outweighs the conservative judgment call made to protect our economy.

John

The concern is the blanket statement published: "“CBP Director of Field Operations in Los Angeles Cheryl M. Davies said the beetles may appear harmless but pose a threat to agricultural resources.”"

Not "beetles", "the beetles" referring to those seized. Paraphrased, "the beetles seized pose a threat to agricultural resources." There is no evidence of that.

It's a broad statement that's not based on fact so much as job retention. Like cops who size a KG of cocaine and say it's valued at $2M, or LEO who seize a "gun armory" with 20 or whatever "machine guns", and anyone who has a clue can tell from the photo that at least a bunch are BB guns and airsoft. It's fabrication at best, really a lie.

That the coconut beetle, a known pest, is now in North America isn't the fault of collectors or breeders. It was inevitable, given global trade- if CBP or USFWS has been working to prevent that, instead of focusing on a few hobby imports, maybe it could have been delayed. Historically, no pest insect has been introduced to North America by collectors or breeders; rather, far more catastrophes have been introduced by the government agencies themselves. It makes more sense to address the root causes of serious problems than bandaid and hype picayune anecdotes.

It's a sweet Adam, a small mint popular throughout the world.

nilzsz wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:32 pm For scale this guy was the size of a tic tac or three.

What does this mean? I have no idea what a 'tic tac' is.

Adam.

nilzsz wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:32 pm Hi, i'm looking for the name of this specific species of dung beetle.
This was found in Central Texas, United States of America.

I did try to look it up, but the sites I was using didn't have this guy in the texas region from what i could tell.

For scale this guy was the size of a tic tac or three. Miniature compared to some of the black dung beetles i have found in the area.

Probably Canthon viridis -

https://bugguide.net/node/view/91804

Hi, i'm looking for the name of this specific species of dung beetle.
This was found in Central Texas, United States of America.

I did try to look it up, but the sites I was using didn't have this guy in the texas region from what i could tell.

For scale this guy was the size of a tic tac or three. Miniature compared to some of the black dung beetles i have found in the area.

The agents are always on the look out for invasive species that could damage our economy.Just like you can't ID every insect you see, neither can they.

https://www.civilbeat.org/2024/10/cocon ... alm-trees/ . The coconut palm beetle has now been fond in Mexico, likely working it's way northward towards the US.

I get it, your rights to rear potential damaging species certainly outweighs the conservative judgment call made to protect our economy.

John

Hello daveuk,

Truly exquisite species! Nice job mounting & repair. Whenever I mount up moths with delicate, thin antennae I always have a small glass of water nearby with a very small, soft bristled brush awaiting. By the time you have spread out the wings, often the antennae dry out.. therefore I continually (every few minutes or so) gently brush water on the antennae to keep them supple until I get to them. Just a thought...

John K.

The last thing that happens is you snap an antennae. I know the feeling well, I have a male Graellsia isabellae with an antennae repair, hard to get perfect. I have tossed freshly emerged specimens in a moment of frustration that might have been repaired, it's always worth a try at least.

Chuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:23 pm d like her to name one instance of damage due to large Dynastes and Eupatorus. Swamp creature.

Makes for alarming reading for uninformed persons. As if anyone who goes to the trouble to get these animals into the country is going to take them to Florida, or Hawaii to release them. Aren't snakes dangerous? I think there is a problem with snakehead fish, actual snakes and certain specific mammals that are much more of a danger to America than a few pet beetles. Click bait for activists, and eye roll for common sense.

https://www.breitbart.com/local/2025/02 ... packs-lax/

“CBP Director of Field Operations in Los Angeles Cheryl M. Davies said the beetles may appear harmless but pose a threat to agricultural resources.”

I’d like her to name one instance of damage due to large Dynastes and Eupatorus. Swamp creature.

I love dayflying moths. This is one of the most striking. Great job repairing the antennae.

The whole undersides of the wings in the fakes shown were clearly blued, it was horrible.

Ornithoptera male abdomens lose color naturally too. In nature they are bright banana yellow like a beacon. You can’t miss them. After death and over time they pale.

I have various priamus ssp- which would be the cheapest now to experiment on?

Appreciate the feedback. A relief to know it's a fairly common practice and not something that should devalue the specimens. And I checked the underside, it is there as well. They actually did a very good job, it blends in so well I didn't notice it for 10 years.

A Japanese once told me that they put glue on the wing base UNDERSIDE, not on top, to prevent specimens from springing in the high humidity there.

Adam.

I remember that the original thread about UV induced 'niclasi' had photos of specimens with 'bleached' abdomens. Presumably the UV light exposure turned them pale.

Adam.

Wow. Great analysis by Dr Hyatt.

1. So if I look at the green on a OV rubianus, and see a sheen or shift, it’s structural?

2. When was the first niclasi reported? Aside from which, the number of Lep collectors who have gone to Rannonga is low; even then it’s no guarantee they’d see it. Remember Tennent said he spent eight weeks in San Christobal and that there were no Polyura Jupiter- till I tossed a fresh one on the table. And I scrapped the description of Graphium sarpedon being rare on Guadalcanal, fortunately prior to publication, because they are not- in an area well covered by top level Lep professionals!


OV rubianus is not bred, it’s ranched. So no cross breeding, no selective breeding.

I had flight worn (not bad) niclasi. Damn I wish I’d not gotten rid of them. I don’t think I have photos but I’ll look.

A common thing particularly for Japanese specimens