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Re: Juvisy Insect Fair 2024
by Barnzell » Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:22 pm
Unfortunately it seems impossible to import with anything else other than DHL/Fedex nowadays.
From the pictures of past events, I am thinking that I would probably purchase too many pinned specimens to easily carry with me
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Re: Agrias butterflies
by Annarobertson1947 » Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:55 pm
I would have thought that a collection of pairs would be a preference
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Re: Using absolutes: always, never
by kevinkk » Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:55 pm
Exactly what I said once to my employer at the roofing company when one of my coworkers claimed he never made mistakes, after I, as foreman
made a judgement call. "You never make mistakes because you never make decisions." That ended the conversation.
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Re: Juvisy Insect Fair 2024
by Chuck » Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:05 pm
If you have the import/export license, why not hand carry and schedule an inspection at the US international airport? That way you reduce risk of damage during shipping and USFWS inspection. As well, with you there during the inspection if the USFWS inspector says "hey this looks like an Ornithoptera!" you can say "no, it's a Pierid. See look here on my phone."Barnzell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:05 am Hello all!
Does anyone in the United States have any experience with purchasing insects at this fair and then importing them to the US? I would really like to go but I am not exactly sure about the process of exporting from France. Of course I would use my American import license and fill out a form 3-177. Would likely mail to myself with DHL. Unfortunately my French is very limited. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Rarities in Charaxes
by wollastoni » Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:23 pm
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Re: butterfly bait trap
by Chuck » Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:44 am
Thanks Vernon. That's the summary I was asking for. Unfortunately, I don't have enough time to read papers outside of my specific area of research. Job and family keep me busy, and with summer (MV season) coming I'll be pulling 4 hours of sleep a night for 90 days.vabrou wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:32 pm Chuck, I direct you to view our 30-year sphingids of Louisiana study. .... taken in fermenting bait traps included Sphinx kalmiae Neurn., Enyo lugubris (L.), Sphecodina abhottii (Swainson), A. floridensis, Darapsa myron, and Darapsa pholus (Cram.). We captured several specimens each of species not generally known to be attracted to fermenting bait were taken by this method, including Laothoe juglandis (J. E. Smith), Hemaris diffinis , Darapsa versicolor (Harr.), and Xylophones tersa (L.). S.
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Re: Juvisy Insect Fair 2024
by wollastoni » Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:24 am
Thank you Pierre, I have updated InsectNet Insect Fair agenda : https://www.insectnet.com/blog/insect-c ... nsect-fair
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Re: Juvisy Insect Fair 2024
by wollastoni » Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:10 am
If you want to mail it, you should better use the French post system called Colissimo (cheaper and less procedurial than DHL).
In the parcel declaration, you can write "dried dead lepidoptera for study".
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Re: Juvisy Insect Fair 2024
by Barnzell » Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:05 am
Does anyone in the United States have any experience with purchasing insects at this fair and then importing them to the US? I would really like to go but I am not exactly sure about the process of exporting from France. Of course I would use my American import license and fill out a form 3-177. Would likely mail to myself with DHL. Unfortunately my French is very limited. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Rarities in Charaxes
by livingplanet3 » Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:54 am
Source: https://wobam.co.uk/product/charaxes-an ... adagascar/
Source: https://wobam.co.uk/product/charaxes-an ... adagascar/
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Re: Using absolutes: always, never
by eurytides » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:33 pm
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Re: Rarities in Charaxes
by daveuk » Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:31 pm
Don't think these are particularly rare but thought they were worth posting in this thread anyway. This is the only pair in my collection. Shown upperside & underside.
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Re: Juvisy Insect Fair 2024
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Re: What moth species is this?
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What moth species is this?
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Re: Using absolutes: always, never
by Chuck » Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:27 pm
I'm rather caught in the middle- I like to keep things short, which at times requires the reader's understanding that there are exceptions.
If I have to write something like "chances of finding Papilio multicaudata east of the Mississippi are .00001%" for every instance when a "fact" is presented then a paper would double in size without adding any real value.
Even something so simple as "flight period June-August" infers that there are no adults on the wing in September, while in fact one might see one per year the first few days of September. Must such a thing be accounted for? We as scientists KNOW there are outliers in virtually every case; the end of the bell curve is miniscule.
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Fulgoridae of Louisiana
by vabrou » Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:20 pm
Freely accessible link:
https://www.academia.edu/117030842/Fulg ... _Louisiana
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Re: Using absolutes: always, never
by vabrou » Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:48 pm
One idiotic thing that even the most learned persons do is to say something is 1000% true. Once one has reached 100%, there is no more of anything beyond 100%. This is entirely different than saying something is 10 times as many e.g. 10 times 100 = 1000 (a quantity) which does not infer or result in 1000 (percent). I can proclaim with 'absolute certainty' that there are a few persons reading this do not comprehend this concept.
I can say with certainty and agree there are 'probably' exceptions to any proposed rules. Chuck, I watched a video where someone was 'running' from an out of control vacuum. An exception obviously.
I will end with that statement I often repeat: The only persons that don't make mistakes are those that do not do anything. Now this is a 100% certainty, then maybe not.
I note that novice collectors often go out light trapping 2-3 days in a year and afterward make foolish BS statements publicly based upon their meaningless experiences. Even though I have operated all of insect traps for nearly 50 million trap hours, I cannot with certainty make some proclamations as an absolute. Such statement have to have some limiting criteria. Another example is in our N.A. scientific literature for the past near two centuries is the repeatedly plagiarized statements concerning how many broods of lepidoptera species exists. Nearly all of these statements do not have have any limiting criteria. e.g. someone reporting a species in Canada only has one annual brood and makes such a proclamation without clarifying that occurred in Canada (this is how our scientific literature reads). But that same species here in Louisiana may have 11 or more annual broods. Here in Louisiana are several agricultural noctuid pest species which have 13 annual broods, How can that be? 13 broods X 28 days each = 364 days.
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Re: Juvisy Insect Fair 2024
by FranKz » Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:17 pm
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Re: Using absolutes: always, never
by kevinkk » Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:39 pm
the old saying is the only certainties in life are death and taxes, I would argue that taxes are not a certainty, and we can only count on expiration.
An interesting observation, and an issue fixed with proper language and grammar, in their correct context.